I applied "Scrubbing Bubbles" bathroom cleaner and "Ajax with Bleach" powder cleanser on the inside of the toilet bowl then used a stainless-steel scouring pad.
When I flushed the toilet, I noticed a slight grey discoloration below the water line.
I tried removing the discoloration by repeating the original process but the discoloration remains.
How can I remove the discoloration? Can I use straight vinegar, straight bleach or other product?
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 11:55:12 PM UTC-5, condo owner wrote:
You shouldn't be using steel pads or any other abrasive on finished porcelain.
If it's a ring around the water line or similar, it's likely mineral deposits
which can be easily removed with a product like CLR or hydrochloric acid.
I drained the toilet bowl and plugged the hole with paper towels and spread paper towels on the sides of the bowl.
I then poured a 1/2 gallon of straight bleach onto the paper towels and let it soak for several hours.
But that did NOT remove any of the discoloration.
So now I will try the baking soda
On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 5:14:04 PM UTC-5, condo owner wrote:
I told you what your problem is and what to do. You have mineral deposits.
Bleach won't remove it. Apply a product like CLR or hydrochloric acid.
What's there now is the mineral deposit plus some metal from using a
steel pad. You should never use that or any abrasive on porcelain.
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:13:59 -0800 (PST), condo owner wrote:
Bleach just bleaches. And kills. It doesn't remove.
While shutting valves and draining the bowl is fine, it's not worth the
effort, IMHO. Neither is scrubbing (and there's that glaze to worry about).
Do you have hard water?
If you have hard water, and if you own a pool (or if you have a friend with
a pool), just ask for about a quart or two of hydrochloric acid. I think
that's 30% by (weight? volume?).
If you have hard water but no pool, I would think muriatic acid at Home
Depot or Lowes is good enough although I don't know the concentration
difference with 29% pool acid (which is what I use).
Once you use the pool acid for hard water problems, you'll wonder why they
even have those toilet bowl cleaning aisles in the super markets.
For example, 5% glacial vinegar is child's play compared to 29% HCl.
As for the fumes, yeah, they're what the Germans used in WWI, so hold your
breath, turn the fan on, pour, walk away - catch your breath - and then
hold it again to come back to swish around, and walk away - and then come
back to swish some more, walk away, etc.
It's easier to do than it is to explain.
Flush well when done, not so much for the toilet, but for the pipes (Lord
help your septic system even so).
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 15:53:09 -0800 (PST), condo owner wrote:
If you have hard water, you have to listen to the folks who said to use
You can get "pool acid" at a pool store (29%) or at a hardware store (Home
One gallon will set you back about five bucks or so.
If you don't have hard water, then I don't know what it is.
However, the moment I see anyone suggesting "baking soda", I know they're
clueless, since it's an alkaline carbonate. What the heck are you expecting
an alkaline bicarbonate to do? Magic?
Every time I see someone mention "baking soda", I have to wonder how their
brain works. Think about what "chemical" it is you're trying to remove.
Then think about what "chemical" removes it.
I can't think of a single "chemical", for example, that sodium bicarbonate
removes in a house. Can you?
The only reason NOT to try the HCl is if you're too scared to use it.
Then, fine. Use whatever you can find in the toilet-bowl cleaning aisle.
It will cost ten times more, and work ten times less efficiently, but it
will smell ten thousand times better than does HCl (which doesn't smell,
but when you get a whiff of it, you'll KNOW it instantly).
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 19:54:41 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
Hi Rod Speed,
Knowledge on the net for baking soda seems to be 99.99% old wives' tales to
For example, it's not a bi carbonate (it has only 1 carbon).
The name is an archaic holdover from before the times that they named
chemicals by the current naming conventions.
I'm trying to understand how baking soda works for the millions of things
that Arm & Hammer loves to advertise it does.
Certainly baking soda, as an alkali, will neutralize acids, but what acids
need to be neutralized in the home outside of baking?
It certainly is abrasive, and washes away afterward, so I agree with you
that it's great 'sandpaper', but I don't see any chemistry that proves it
works as a deodorizer in a general sense (only very specific vapors under
very specific circumstances, all of which require lots of surface area,
which you can get by sprinkling on a carpet but not with an open box in the
On baking soda, it seems to be 99.99% old wives' tales to 0.01% chemistry.
I have a five pound bag that I can't find any decent use for outside of
cooking, and using as a super mild abrasive (for which I have no need since
Ajax works better, IMHO, and that contains, literally, sand).
Its not just used to neutralise those acids most obviously when
used with vinegar to clear drains, it’s the foaming effect that works.
Like with odours in fridges where you want something
which wont contaminate the food in the fridge.
Not when you are deodorising the fridge or say
one of the soft plastic containers that you have
had a more smelly than usual curry in etc.
It does in fact deodorise a fridge quite effectively
and isnt a problem if you manage to spill it etc.
Its not that bad.
Sure, but baking powder works better with food containers.
I've had a few that I have managed to forget about which
have had the contents go mouldy which has meant that
the soft plastic container has got marked and baking
soda works better than ajax with those.
As Antonio Villaraigosa (the ex-mayor of Los Angeles) said during a 2006 immigration-march speech, "We clean your toilets!".
My toilet is now spot-fee and scratch-free! To remove the "gunk", I used bleach, Ajax and vinegar. To remove the scratches, I used Bar Keepers Friend.
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