Dammit.. How to get 2 zones and power from a 4-conductor

[Nelson Muntz]

So I just finished this job with 5 home-run motions to the CP. As I was doing training I told him about the tamper switches on the motions IS25100TC (front and back) that I wired in series with the alarm contacts. He thought that was great - then added, "so I'll be able to know right away when someone knocks the thing off the wall, right?". Of course the answer is 'no'. I never planned on putting the tampers on a separate 24 hour zone - otherwise I would have run 6 conductor. Now he wants that "feature", and the trick for sharing a 'common' wire for power and zone won't work as far as I can tell. Am I correct, or is there a way to do it without running more wire?

[Bud]

correct me if I'm wrong. you said the motions are tampered to the wall and the cover. so if a motion gets knocked off the wall the zone will be open. this will alert the owner of the problem. if so then you have no problem. do not think the owner has the tech expertise that you possess. he doesn't know about tamper zones or deol. don't make your job harder by assuming he does. he just needs to know that if a zone is faulted to go check it to see whats wrong. right?

[Nelson Muntz]

It's a strange situation. This is the same one I posted about with the $500 budget.

It's a mini-storage. The manager lives on-site. We finally agreed (grudgingly) that a noisemaker would sound if someone ( or a bird, roach, or spider) was in the 3-story building I would provide a loud noise. That's it. I do not consider this a security system at all.. I used the Vista-15P panel purely because it's logic ability that could not be replicated cheaper with relays.

Our agreement was that this thing WILL false alarm, and often. It is not monitored or course. Now he want's to catch vandals in real time

- with my PIR's as bait. That was never part of the deal. I am already losing money on this shit. I should have never done it.

The whole issue with tampers came up when I was doing the training. I told him that they are tampered front and back - he thought that was great and assumed a tamper situation meant he would be alerted during the day.

[Kadaitcha Man]

Nelson Muntz Thou scornful piece. All that is within him does condemn itself for being there. Ye barfed:

You're a perpetual failure, Graham, and while you're sitting there lamenting the loss of a few bucks you're being taunted by a black man who earns six figures. Sucks to be you, hey.

Did you ever imagine that those words would come back to haunt you, racist netK0oK? Hmmm?

So much for your communication skills, eh, grammar lamer.

I did tell you I was black, right?