I have a utility room off the kitchen in the rental. I'd like to put
a second bath in there. It's about 52" wide. I can take up as much of
10' as I need, the remainder will have the water heater and be needed
storage for outdoor tools and such.
I'd like to do this frugally and need some ideas. Layout options are
wide open. Got a pedestal sink which should conserve floor space.
Kit, pan with some kind of walls, or something else? I see complaints
on the kits and the pans!
Got a friend who can do tile and a few builders surplus places
around. I'd like the bath to look like a lot more money than was
actually spent on it. There seems to be an art to that!
Not a bad day here today, got some cement curing that we poured
earlier to fix my front door landing and wall problems. I had wood
siding that came to the edge of my front porch landing pad and a sill
that was below that. Not any more!
Consider a 4.5 foot long bathtub instead of a full-sized 5' tub. We
made a second bathroom using the slightly shorter tub and it has
worked out fine, I don't think anyone except me realizes it is 6'
On 12/23/2010 4:50 PM, hr(bob) firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I like that. My Dad put one in, I bet right around when they came out! I
aim to have the classiest 14K house!
I'm thinking the tub is less trouble than the pan. The shorter tub might
just fit against the back wall. Nice shower curtain. I've seen some nice
16" slate tiles lately, cheap. I wonder if that would work in the shower
or should I go with a nice ceramic:
I don't mind working my friends that owe me, just having to pay for it.
I can throw some labor in and the tile is no more than the kits. Not
that I can tell. If I tile the little bit of floor, it could be a knock
out with good lighting.
If you remove the drywall or whatever and get a full 54", you are good
to go. I did that in a narrow bathroom and it looks great. I used a
fiberglass mobile home tub but real plumbing houses have steel 54" tubs.
They also make 48" tubs that are inexpensive.
Thanks. I'll look around. I'm thinking the steel tub is better, near
can tell mobile home fixtures are designed with the sole consideration to be
as cheap as possible which is why nothing ever has an overflow drain.
it was odd at first, and then I caught on.
You can get 4-foot (Bootz Honolulu) or 4-1/2 foot (Bootz Kona) steel tubs.
Probably any plumbing supply place could order the size you need.
The 4-foot version is also more narrow (27 inches instead of 30 inches), so
maybe that would enable you to place a tub along the long wall in your room
and still have room to get past it.
Here are a few links:
Be very cautious about using a steel tub in rental property. A dropped
bottle can chip them. Most stuff is in plastic now so it is not as big a
problem as it was 15 years ago. When they scorch the acrylic with their
cigarettes it can be sanded and repaired.
re: "I see complaints on the kits and the pans!"
You can probably find complaints on *anything*! ;-)
What kind of complaints are you referring to? Looks? Longevity? Ease
I installed a fiberglass pan and 3 piece shower surround over 20 years
ago and use it daily. I've never had a single problem.
In the main bath I installed a fiberglass tub and 3 piece shower
surround about 5 years ago. It gets used daily by 3 people and I've
never had a single problem with it.
Wait, that's not right. A year after I installed the tub I replaced
the drain pop-up since the fancy one I tried required disassembly
every few months to clean the hair out. Tip: If you have anyone with
long hair using the shower, do not use one of those foot-operated pop-
ups. The hair gets under the stopper and gets caught on the X-shaped
part of the drain.
You have to take part of the stopper assembly apart to clean it every
If you can do tile that may turn out to be the cheapest way to go and
it will always look better than some cheesy fiberglass surround.
It is probably easiest to go with a premade pan but putting a
mudbed/membrane floor is not really that tough if you are slab on
There are tile outlet places that have great deals on small lots of
On 12/23/2010 9:03 PM, email@example.com wrote:
I was wondering about cement earlier as I was watching my porch
footing getting fixed. Quick work. Very cheap.
I Googled this up:
Is that about right?
Can I use something like slate, or does is it need to be impervious?
Small tile easier to work with? Less surface prep?
I'll start looking around. Any suggestion for the shower floor?
I'm liking the whole custom bit, and easier to make fit in whatever
space is available. And now that I think of it, I know at least 4 people
who know how to work cement, and also owe me a favor! Oh boy!
You omitted the two biggest details needed. Where are the door and any
windows located. Also nice to know is which if any are outside walls.
For starters I would stick the shower and WH on the same 52" wall side by
side if possible. If the water heater is electric then both can be screened
with a single fabric shower curtain to dress the half bath portion up. Of
course storing outside tools in there kinda ruins the look.
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I have no idea on the shower, but if you need a compact toilet, I mean
REALLY compact, like one that will fit under a staircase, I have a
suggestion I saw in an architecture book.
Wait for it now...
Adapt the lavatory from a junked airliner!
I comes with a toilet, sink, a slot to dispose of razor blades, and little
signs admonishing you not to throw stuff (i.e., diapers, cantelopes, etc.)
down the commode.
I don't think they come with blue water.
Yep, it's doable and the lavatories are readily available; from where I
don't know, but the search should be interesting.
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