Switching kitchen and dining room... cost?

[al]

Thinking of moving my kitchen into the adjoining dining room and would like to get an idea of the cost before I bother any contractors for estimates.

I'm trying to price out adapting the plumbing and electric which is already in one DR wall servicing a utility room on the other side; closing off the plumbing in the current kitchen; and finishing the walls. The utility room has a washer and dryer and a hot water heater, so everything should be in the wall (I think) for any kitchen plumbing and appliances.

I need new cabinets anyway so I'm thinking if I'm going to do this, now's the time unless it's cost prohibitive in which case I 'll just redo the cabinets.

I realize that I'm not going to get an accurate estimation here. Just looking for a ballpark approximation of what it might cost.

Thanks in advance for any and all opinions.

[hallerb]

figure at least 4 times the cost of just redoing the existing kitchen as a starting place.

upgrades will be your enemy...

why do you want to switch them?

[Edwin Pawlowski]

The utilities serving the laundry are designed just for that. It may be possible to tap the water for the sink, but you need more electric service. The refrigerator should be on its own and you need other appliances of at least one or more additional circuits. It may be possible to use the drain, but if it is too small, running the washer for laundry and the DW at the same time can cause flooding. I can't see it from here.

The range either needs a 240V line or gas plumbed to it. Not knowing the construction of the house, I do not know if this is a 30 minute or a 10 hour job. What about range venting? Location of baseboard heaters or duct outlets? Lighting over the sink? Window height over the sink or counters will be different also. That can be a major change affecting the exterior walls of brick or siding. .

Figure from 10% to 200% over the cost of a remodel.

Can't even give a wild guess not being able to see the layout and construction.

[Tony Hwang]

Hi, On top of basic crude estimate, this type of work is as you go surprise, wish did not start it, LOL. Anything is possible but first thing comes to mind is wiring for oven, fridge, dishwasher, etc., etc.

[al]

hallerb said: figure at least 4 times the cost of just redoing the existing kitchen as a starting place. ouch!

upgrades will be your enemy... What? Another one?

why do you want to switch them? I don't anymore!

I guess this project is for a DIY type... or someone with large bags of disposable income. So I'm disqualified, twice.

Thanks for all the information.

[hallerb]

al, theres never harm in getting quotes. my wife would like to remove the wall between our dining room and kitchen.

its a bearing wall with utilities:( She thinks we would gain lots of cabinet space, sadly it wouldnt help much since the wall she wants to remove is mostly covered with cabinets.........

anyhow theres never harm in asking

[trader4]

This is just plain crazy. It's not unusual to spend $50K to upgrade a kitchen. To say that it's going to cost over $200K to swap it with a dining room is crazy. To do a kitchen make often involves gutting the whole thing, new floor, new cabinest, etc. The biggest difference in your case is running the electric, gas, water, drain to the other location, drywalling the old kitchen and putting in a floor. It's hard to imagine that's gonna cost 4X.

I would say the cost would not be prohibitive and to get quotes if you think from a design, usage, resale, etc standpoint switching the rooms makes sense.

[mrsgator88]

You're not bothering them, its part of what they do for a living. We don't know enough about your house to give a figure. Also labor cost can vary greatly in different parts of the country. Costs nothing to get some quotes, let us know what you come up with.

S