Can Tide pods damage a washing machine drain pump?

Now it is my turn to apologise for using the emotive term PLASTIC to describe the material which is designed to melt at specific times during the wssh process. A bit like the vegetarians who use the word blood when describing any moisture in a steak which keeps it from being too dry for normal people to eat!

I have already admitted the coincidence of my first use of a pod coinciding with the pump 'going out'.

Yes, it might well be something falling into the wash which is jamming something in there. And I did say that I can feel the impeller moving properly from quadrant to quadrant, though I don't now think this must mean everything IS ok with the drain pump. It is probably some blockage which hasn't made it through to the filter area yet?

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Amanda Ripanykhazova
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That occurred to mw when the grinding/buzzing stopped and the machine started SEEMING to work again.

But I took all clothes out and tried to run a cycle and it gave an OE not draining error as soon as any drain cycle started. I think the grinding must mean something and not just that there is a blockage between the drain pump and the drain?

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Amanda Ripanykhazova

Actually it is not as depressing as paying money and spending huge amounts of time on a machine which I KNOW is so badly designed by LG that they actually forgot to include a lint filter. So whatever I pay/do, this machine will need rebuilding within 1-2 years because LG will not accept responsibility for their catastrophic design!

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Amanda Ripanykhazova

When I was little, I assumed it was blood.

I only found out it's not when I was 65 years old

Yes, I hadn't read that.

When my dishwasher wouldn't drain, it's parts were a lot more accessible than your washer. I took various things apart and ran it though part of its cycle so often (10 times?) the same water got so hot it melted some plastic item.

I finally tracked it doown to the thing that sticks up next to the sink faucet, the anti-siphon thing. The silver cap comes off and a cream-colored plastic cap unscrews and inside was a chicken bone, the small one next to the drumstick. That was keeping the dishwasher from draining. Not sure how this applies to you, however.

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micky

Why would anyone screw with a selenium rectifier after the invention of the silicon diode?

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gfretwell

And on the depressing scale, how about LG withdrawing their technical support rather than accept responsibility for their design gaffe?

Now, they certainly have tech support numbers to call. And there are people with suspicious sounding foreign accents who come to the phone fairly quickly as well. The trouble is, those telephonists have no technical knowledge whatsoever.

They seem to be sitting in a cubicle in front of a piece of paper with two sentences of instructions FIRSTLY pretend to listen to the customer and say "yes" every so often. It doesn't matter when. SECONDLY tell the customer that he or she needs to call out a service technician to fix whatever the customer is asking about.

I once cross-checked by trying to ask where the on/off switch was: The answer dutifully came back after the 'pretending to "double-check" with a supervisor' stage that I needed a service technician to fix what was wrong and am I anywhere near Juneau or is Alaska anywhere near the NY Tristate area?

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Amanda Ripanykhazova

Most liquids are now HE anyway and OK to use, needed or not.

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Ed Pawlowski

I don't look at it as a competition. At least since I'm not one of the contenders.

I wonder if you know about the Whirlpool Cool Line. In the 70's and for how long after that I don't know, they answered the phone pretty quickly, and they had actual appliance repairmen to tell you how to fix your machine. One of them spent an hour with me over 2 calls, and

*she*, a she, gave me instructions up to and including how to remove the basket (top loader) and replace the main bearing (when it wouldn't spin, or agitate either maybe. I didin't use it often enough and it rusted shut) She never said, Well you'll have to call a repairman. I dealt with someone else too on another occasion. Similar treatment. It ended up I couldn't get the basket off becausae the bearing was rusted both to the basket and the center post, and to itself. But the machine was 20 years old or more when I got it. I found it on the street and used it for 5 years.

(When I got it, it had gravel in the intake screens, so it filled verrrry slowly; the lid switch was broken so it did nothing, and the top inch high cover needed painting. I used E-pox-ee Appliance White and it came out beautful and matched the bottom.

A month after I threw this one away, I found a better one, one that was full-zise but on wheels with a lever in the back to lower and raise the wheels. Meant to be kept wherever conventient and then rolled up to the kitchen sink in an apartment. (I had a double sink, shallow on the left and deep as a laundry sink on the right, even though the building was built in 1930, before, I think, people had home washing machines.** Also Whirlpool. The clear plastic step indicator behind the knob was scrraped so some of the printed stuff was missing, and it was broken in half iirc. I must have been able to buy a new one. There might have been something else wrong, or maybe not. I used that for 6 years and gave it away when I moved out of Brooklyn. I gave it to someone who lived 6 short blocks away, and since it was too big to put in my car, I rolled it on those wheels to her place.

**In fact my building originally had a guy in the basement to do the laundry for the 49 apartments (Although 10 of the 49 were built with maid's rooms. Aha, that's who the deep sink was for. The maid, to do the laundry, without a machine. And in the other apartments, the tenants I think if they didn't want to pay the guy in the basement or they only had a little.

I don't think they had tumble dryers in 1930, but what they had in the basement were drawers, mounted sideways (6 feet tall but 8" wide horizontally) with a rod to hang sheets at the top, and a gas flame at the bottom to dry the sheets. Never figured out how other clothes were to be dried.

But I just hung my laundry on my shower bar and polyester dries in 8 hours, cotton in 2 days.

I have to remember that if I ever get married.

I don't think I want to tell my wife that.

LOL

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micky

Because that's what they had in the first place. What do I know? It might be the right thing to use. Or it might not be. It's what I'd use, but I'm not a doctor. I'd use selenium and azithromycin. I hear a lot of people are using that.

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micky

I absolutely LOVED those gas dryers!! Had them when I first moved to a 1928 building next to PanHellenic Hotel in New York. Made it incredibly easy to fold sheets as well, just by doubling over twice.

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Amanda Ripanykhazova

Wow, you're the first person I've met who used them. (There were old ladies in my building, but I think they had maids who sent the laundry to the basement (put it on the dumbwaiter.) Or if they did it themselves, they just put it in the dumbwaiter.

So were you able to dry clothes, or only sheets? You'd put a shirt or pants over that bar at the top? Or were there some sort of hangers to keep the shirts in the shape of a shirt?

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micky

My grandparent's apartment building in Manhattan, built something like 1915, had these as well.

They were still in use 1960ish for large items and by people who didn't want to use the rotary dryers.

And eyup, you grabbed the handle and slid the whole drawer out, placed your sheets on the rods, then slid everything back into place.

*whew*, the memories...

I'm not sure whether they had gas flames underneath or were heated by the steam pipes from the boiler. I'm tempted to believe the latter 'cuz gas supplies were _dangerous_, particularly before the Big Switchover from manufactured (or the similar town) gas to natural gas 1950's/60's.

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danny burstein

OH NO, - these were the real thing from the 1920s! It was a real thrill to light them!

You opened a wrought iron gate underneath, which exposed the burners. They looked like an oven grill, - but sorts upside down. You turned on two heavy 1920s-style shut-off/on levers, and then you lit a match and THREW it into that lower compartment and (in the words of the firework manufacturers) retired quickly while you waited for the explosion!

It was very easy to pretend that they were dangerous but they weren't really.

There wasn't really enough room in them for a hanger on which to put a shirt? The long "drawer" wouldn't have closed. You COULD put socks over the lengthy bars but I cant remember there being any reason why you would want to?

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Amanda Ripanykhazova

Might have been... Like I said, I leaned to thinking that the ones in my grandparents' apartment basement were using steam pipes but,

a: I could be wrong b: they might have been retrofitted...

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danny burstein

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If you tell us the make and model of the washer we can help you better. Panels are removable for service. There are repair sites and U tube videos that perhaps we can direct you to.

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