On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 06:58:58 +0000, Ned Turnbull wrote:
Thanks for posting this and - good job by the way.
I've posted a link to this in NANAE. (news.admin.net-abuse.email). The
Indian scammers have long been a topic of amusement amongst the members.
It was a slow day at TechCenter so the guy played dumb to the point of
downloading Support.me to a dummy computer to see what the scammers would
Or when you get a call......
"Just a minute please."
Hit a few buttons to make some tones. "This is the call." Then
disguise your voice.
"This is Chief Inspector Columbo from Interpol. I am calling from our
office in South Africa, and this call is presently being traced. You
will be charged under international law with Attemped Fraud and will
be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. You are looking at a
minimum of ten years in prison. We will see you soon."
See how quickly he hangs up.
That's just silly. Everyone knows that since Obama became president
he's cut back on "boots on the ground". No one is going to come visit
and arrest him. A drone, however, is on it's way now, and its controller
is locating him using his internet access.
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:23:19 -0600, rbowman wrote:
Thanks for sharing that story, which I read, with interest, as I never
went further than to download the requested package.
On the entire net, unfortunately, very few people actually followed
the Indian Support Scam to fruition, as most stop at the credit card
details, as this guy did in that article.
The *only* published scam that I know of that went further, was the
sting by the US government article, which shows the next steps.
0. Indian caller calls victim (generally unsolicited)
1. Indian caller informs them their PC has been sending reports.
2. If persuasion is needed, Indian caller shows them event viewer.
3. Victim downloads Support.me or similar remote-sharing software
4. Victim provides the machine-specific ID to the Indian caller.
5. Indian caller accomplice logs in & brings up PayPal.
6. Victim enters in credit card information for $300 fee.
.... If victim plays dumb, the callers delete important files!
7. Victim has $300 withdrawn plus much more in wire transfers.
As far as I can tell from the published videos and audio, none
of which go the full mile, the Indian scammers do *not* install
keyloggers or other malware (but, certainly, they could).
They just try to pull as much money out of you as they can.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 09:33:06 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
Actually, almost all the published videos *stop* at the paypal form
point, as did this malwarebytes researcher did also:
I can't find a *single* video that actually allows valid information to
be entered into the paypal form, so, we don't really know (other than
from the US Government Sting Operation previously noted) what they do
Of course, none of us would be willing to get to that level of
I haven't tried this yet (I get very few unwanted calls, for some
reason), but I have heard that if you record the "out of service"
error tone at the beginning of your outgoing message, auto-diallers
will recognize it & often delete your number from their list.
I have a natural revulsion to any operating system that shows so
little planning as to have to named all of its commands after
That has been talked about and appears to be somewhat effective.
They may be on to that trick by now, after all this has been available
since around 2005.
Wikipedia has a number of tones recorded that may be fun to play with:
If it is successful please report back!
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:09:04 -0700, trader_4 wrote:
I complained following instructions here ...
Specifically, I went here:
It is a zero frills landline service for the disabled or senior
citizens to have access to medical help. They remove the federal taxes,
in exchange for giving you basic service at a low price.
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
I saw that one, but also in Sweden, Caller ID is typically not included
in the basic landline: you have to pay a few bucks a month to get that.
Is that not possible on this type of landlines (for which there is no
equivalent in Sweden)?
Well, I guess they have 3 or 4 choices:
1. delete numbers that result in an out-of-service tone;
2. keep all numbers in the list & continue to waste money (maybe not
much) dialling numbers that are out of service;
3a. let ASR try to analyse the voice messages after the tone to decide
whether to keep or delete the numbers;
3b. pay someone to listen to the messages to do that.
Master Foo said: "A man who mistakes secrets for knowledge is like
a man who, seeking light, hugs a candle so closely that he smothers
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