Merry Christmas, Season's Greetings, Happy Holidays! Anyway, I have a Bryant condensing furnace Model 340MAV on which the blower motor makes a loud/brief hum/vibration noise on startup. Startup Cap was easy/cheap enough to replace, but did not fix the problem. Is my blower motor going bad or is there something else I should look at first before bringing it in to an electric motor shp for a checkup?
Thanks in advance!!!
You could take it to a motor shop, or you could call a HVAC company with experience in furnaces. I can think of a couple problems it could be.
On Dec 21, 9:36=A0am, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:
pages, and I've learned a couple of very costly lessons that reflect poorl= y on the HVAC trade by the actions of this one company -- *cough* Climate D= esign System of Methuen, MA *cough*. I should have known I was in trouble w= ith the 'tech' called from my neighbor's driveway asking why I wasn't answe= ring their door...but it just gets worse.
Their snake 'technician' *cough*THIEF*cough* came out to perform gas maintenance on my system at a cost of $158, and perhaps even to have me subscribe to their regular maintenance service plan. Cutting right to the chase: They didn't clean the blower motor (p/o the service) and likely didn't do much more. I didn't realize this until I opened the compartment two days later to investigate the motor noise which they had no answer for other than "we can clean your blower wheel for $80, but that could make it worse, so we can then replace your blower motor at a cost of $877 -- consequently I wrote off their service plan. It also wasn't until a week later I realized they had STOLEN a brand new electronic motorized damper I had foolishly left down there in view ($110 cost for that), so I'm out a total of $268. I guess their thieving tech was so busy trying to figure how to get a damper fo that size out of the house he forgot to do my service. Fricking thieves, eh TONY?! Anyway, stopped payment on the CC for service not performed, sent an email to the company president along with pictures of the dirty component -- never heard back from him (why am I not surprised?), followed up with a 2nd email after I discovered the THEFT, and I will also be filing a police report tomorrow AM as I don't expect to get the damper back within the 24 hours I allowed them. Incidentally, got a 2nd quote from another local HVAC company that was a more 'reasonable' $480 to replace the motor.
However, snakes aside, I had much greater success with a local electric motor company (BAY STATE ELECTRIC, Methuen, MA). That guy's done me good twice, and identified my motor as being bad, and gave me a lead on where to find a new one (all at no charge). After a mere $125 for a brand new motor and about two hours of my own time (pulling, picking up, installing) my system is running smooth and quiet.
Unfortunately, SNAKES like Climate Design System of Methuen, MA reflect quite poorly on all you upstanding HVAC guys willing to offer support on this board and who treat your customers well. More unfortunate, it will be a cold day in hell, or my house before I choose another HVAC without a recommendation from others who trust them...
"Jim Conway" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... On Dec 21, 9:36 am, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:
Their snake 'technician' *cough*THIEF*cough* came out to perform gas maintenance on my system at a cost of $158, and perhaps even to have me subscribe to their regular maintenance service plan. Cutting right to the chase: They didn't clean the blower motor (p/o the service) and likely didn't do much more. I didn't realize this until I opened the compartment two days later to investigate the motor noise which they had no answer for other than "we can clean your blower wheel for $80, but that could make it worse, so we can then replace your blower motor at a cost of $877 -- consequently I wrote off their service plan. It also wasn't until a week later I realized they had STOLEN a brand new electronic motorized damper I had foolishly left down there in view ($110 cost for that), so I'm out a total of $268. I guess their thieving tech was so busy trying to figure how to get a damper fo that size out of the house he forgot to do my service. Fricking thieves, eh TONY?! Anyway, stopped payment on the CC for service not performed, sent an email to the company president along with pictures of the dirty component -- never heard back from him (why am I not surprised?), followed up with a 2nd email after I discovered the THEFT, and I will also be filing a police report tomorrow AM as I don't expect to get the damper back within the 24 hours I allowed them. Incidentally, got a 2nd quote from another local HVAC company that was a more 'reasonable' $480 to replace the motor.
However, snakes aside, I had much greater success with a local electric motor company (BAY STATE ELECTRIC, Methuen, MA). That guy's done me good twice, and identified my motor as being bad, and gave me a lead on where to find a new one (all at no charge). After a mere $125 for a brand new motor and about two hours of my own time (pulling, picking up, installing) my system is running smooth and quiet.
Unfortunately, SNAKES like Climate Design System of Methuen, MA reflect quite poorly on all you upstanding HVAC guys willing to offer support on this board and who treat your customers well. More unfortunate, it will be a cold day in hell, or my house before I choose another HVAC without a recommendation from others who trust them...
We can't help it if you are a cheap f*ck who is easy pickin's for a crooked company that you might invite into your house.
Get a f***in' clue and quit playing victim all the time.
Part of the snake team, eh champ?! There's a company in Methuen, MA where you'd fit in quite well.
Just what support did these assholes on alt.hvac offer you? Most of these circle-jerk nitwits here would make Climate Design look good.
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Part of the snake team, eh champ?! There's a company in Methuen, MA where you'd fit in quite well. ============================================
Not possible -- Mike circle-jerk Hunt is way too comfortable at Yost & Campbell, incompetents extreeordainaire in Westchester/Bronx, NY, the NY equivalent to Climate Design in MA. At only $10/hr, he'll f*ck up any hvac system better than anyone, thru misadjustment or theft.
So what was wrong with the motor?
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Ahh, actual conversation... A rarity on this group. Anyway, motor guy thought it was the front bearing sleeve. Recommended replacing as he doesn't rebuild the small ones.
Hence, he wouldn't be able to help Mikey, so Mrs. Hunt of Westchester county will remain sexually unfulfilled...
I've had some success dissembling, and relubing electric motors. Yeah, most tech rip and replace. Sometimes I get calls out on Saturday, and the parts houses are closed. The last motor repair I did, no heat call for a church mouse. No money, just a cold home. The draft inducer fan locked up, and it's rough to be in NYS with no heat this time of year.
Oiling a motor isn't going fix a worn bearing you stupid f****ng top posting idiot.
Actually there is a lot to be said about Stormin Mormon's proceedure. Some day you may have to do things like that when you work for those places who don't have the necessary funding to "support you in the manner you wish to be supported". You don't replace, you fix.
Take some WD-40 or some other lubricant and spray it generously into the motor while running. This can often clean out the bearing surface. Careful not to overdo this as oil can short the motor out. When the WD-40 no longer runs out of the motor, add a few drops of lubricating oil. Not a fix but might get you through a dark night or long weekend or until the motor can be replaced.
Your four letter vocabulary isn't going to fix anything either. If he posts on the bottom, would you call him a 'bottom feeder"?
Dr. Stone
Um... no. The OP wasn't complaining of a motor that wouldn't turn over. It turned over just fine except it was noisy due to bad bearings. No amount of oil is going to fix that. Stormy is a idiot who preys off dumb asses. Are you a dumb ass?
Well, it's tough to think straight, what with having to service half a dozen or so wives, made evermore stressful with no contraception..... Mebbe Stormin should be providing the brain food for all the assholes in this effingly useless ng (ah, not ahr).....
Even if oil *were* called for (say, oil cups for the bronze bearings on older motors), WD-40 (suggested by Dr. Stoned) is near-useless.
In fact, WD-40 is a near-useless product altogether, qualifying as a "lubricant" for mebbe hinges. It's only redeeming value for general use, iiuc, is that it has some solids in suspension, which can act as a dry lubricant once the crap has volatilized off -- think LockEase. Altho, I haven't really been able to detect any of that dry lubricant.
The REAL utility of WD-40 is as..... no, not for beating one's meat, as per the likes of Mike Hunt and his ripoff ilk, during their interminable dry spells..... but as a tapping fluid for aluminum. Except for a few "exotics", like perhaps MolyD et al, WD-40 is regarded by a fair fraction of machinists as one of the best aluminum tapping fluids -- and proly ok for steel.
This is due to the fact that WD is kerosene-based, and kerosene itself is quite good for tapping alum. But WD has much less of the kerosene odor, an additional plus.
Plus, WD is nearly ubiquitous in the marketplace, a fixture in all bigbox stores, which in my mind is what is really spectacular about WD-40, and is what makes Merka so great:
WD-40, once again, demonstrates how a product *utterly inferior to virtually all others in its class, ie to virtually all other lubricants, penetrants, and rust inhibitors* -- Kroil and PB Blaster just to name two markedly superior products -- utterly *dominates* the marketplace. Really fukn amazing.
There seems to be a true mathematical relation, butt another Law of the Proctologically Violated©® : That a product's advertising budget is inversely proportional to its quality/utility/validity. Virtually across the board.
Also, with very few exceptions, if a product is infomercialed, it is almost always shit -- by definition. One exception, pointed out recently in ahr, was that super-ladder ditty, with some nifty locking mechanism. $400, iirc. Of course, the fact remains that even here, two $40 step ladders, with a cupla 2x6s, and a 12-16' extension ladder (all for under $200), have much more versatility and utility, with less mechanical drama, AND the ability to service more users at once. Ergo, MUCH more bang fer one's buck than this super-ladder ditty. Heh, see the below Bang fer yer Buck law.
Another law of the PV'd: If Billy Mays, or any Bri'ish bloke, or Tony Little is doing the hawking, the product is *guarownteed* to be shit. This law is absolute, with no exceptions whatsoever.
Another absolute PV law, the Law of Bang fer yer Buck :
An infomercialed or heavily advertised product, even if not shit, has a bang fer yer buck at least an order of magnitude less than its legitimate competition. Which means it has less quality/utility, or a greater price, or both.
PB Blaster is under advertised, and aparently good stuff. It has the advantage of spraying in a stream. So, if you're under the work van and want to spray the entire brake cable, it's easy enough to do with the long reach stream. WD-40 comes out in a fog.
yeah, PB is good stuff. IMHO it's inferior to Kroil, but on the upside, they do have it at that Orange Colored Store (although you have to look pretty hard for it, as opposed to WD-40) and it's really not all that bad - way better than WD-40 anyway.
Hands down the best penetrating oil I've ever used was Wuerth Rost Off, but I dunno where you can buy it.
nate
re: "WD-40 comes out in a fog."
Not with new "Smart Straw"...
WD Stormy. Everything the mormon c*ck sucker says comes out of a fog.
Get you some JigALoo and have a gay old time...
From any Wuerth industrial distributor - and it IS pretty good stuff.
The original formulation was great - it actually worked. The new formulation (last 10 years or so??) is more useless than bear whiz.
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