Bread Machine recommendation. Want one NOT made in China.

I'm sure that varies by company. Some will care, others less so. On many of our products we have no traceability one it is removed from the package it is shipped in. Others, as required, can be traced to the shift, operator, raw material. Individual parts are marked.

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Ed Pawlowski
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I'm betting you've never tried any of the no-knead recipes. I've done a couple and they are surprisingly good. [though I still usually use my Kitchen Aid to do required kneading-- made in USA & a lot more versatile than a bread machine]

No-knead is not a quick bread-- it usually lets time take the place of sweat.

This one doesn't even do that-- and it isn't bad.

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Jim Elbrecht

I thought you were referring to product, not CSRs. Quality control goes well beyond what CSRs enter. Have you heard of ISO 9000? If it were impossible to control quality from foreign sources like China, companies like Boeing would have planes falling out of the air. IMO, US companies that are shipping crap Chinese product are doing it because they don't care and know perfectly well what they are getting and shipping.

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trader4

Yes, I agree. You can't just blame it on the foreign vendor, as if the US company has no control. The US company comes up with the spec for the product and should be able to measure the incoming product against it using standard quality control practices.

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trader4

How did you manage to buy a computer with no components made in China??

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Kuskokwim

Steve wrote in news:Xns9FEC91D56F89rendaratcheerfuldotc@216.151.153.49:

KingArthurflour.com also speaks highly of the Zojirushi and sells it. For me, with a household of me and my wife and visits by kids and grandkids occasionally, a $2-300 machine isn't cost-effective as long as my 30 year- old Welbilt still works.

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Han

buy used computer in US, take apart, reassemble - at which point it's all made in the US, not China? ;)

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Jules Richardson

Oh, please, that's just pure BS. There are numerous quality control strategies that any company with a pulse can use to prevent that from happening.

Or they set up phony assembly lines for quality

And when you do normal quality control sampling of the incoming product that is made like crap, you find it. Or if the product won't fit on the assembly line or breaks you know you have a problem. Then you figure out what they pulled and you send it back, don't pay for it, and cut them off your vendor list.

They can have a tactics they want. Any decent US company that is concerned about quality won't let them get away with it. On the other hand, there are US companies that don't give a damn, and know perfectly well what they are buying. If you're a US company shipping crap that is made in China, it's not because of the Chinese, it's because of YOU.

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trader4

The Chinese can make good stuff when they want to or are encouraged to by the company they're manufacturing for. ^_^

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

I suppose that's true but it still leaves us with the trade deficit problem.

US residents that buy Chinese products must really hate their children.

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Juan Deere

Personally I love children, they're great with barbeque sauce and the toes are the crunchy part. As far as purchasing Chinese products, it's very difficult to find commodities that are not made in China. It seems to me that every time I buy screws, nuts, bolts or pipe fitting it has China stamped on the box or item itself. I've had to replace a lot of capacitors in air conditioning units and it's almost impossible to find a replacement part that's not made in China. I imagine that most of the manufacturers would rather be in the U.S. if not for over regulation by the government and the outrageous behavior of some labor unions that make production costs unbearable. Most of our manufacturers have been run off to China and other countries that are not hostile toward businesses. I remember when personal computers were manufactured in The United States, a desktop PC would cost around $5,000.00 and was state of the art at the time but nowhere near the value you can get today just about anywhere. O_o

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

...but will turn around and shaft you with crap if given a two second window in which to do it.

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krw

Japanese company.... But made in chi- nah

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ocfdc2

Rots a ruck.

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Clare Snyder

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mjph1929

My wife used the KitchenAid mixer. After the rise she did thenext step by hand. Looks easy to me but I never did it.

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Ed Pawlowski

I've never been disappointed with a Panasonic product...though they do cost a lot of dough.

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Betty Lu

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niedersachsenchicago

Hands. Unless you are Chinese they are not made in China and they work well. Last for years, easy to clean, never get lost in the back of a cabinet.

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Ed Pawlowski

My mom used a "Kenwood Chef" with a dough hook - got it in about 1959

- made in North America

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Clare Snyder

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