Bidet (is that the right word)?
I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the U.S.
The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean water
sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or button to
make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people still use
toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for itself on T.P.
savings, and for those who have septic systems, would save on tank
I'm considering trying to find one of these, assuming it fits in the
same space as a standard toilet, especially if it saves on T.P. Not that
T.P. is a huge expense, but pumping my septic is costly, and more than
once the sewer pipe has frozen on winter due to a wad of T.P. sitting in
the pipe. The pipes were installed properly, but the tank is over 100Ft.
from the house so there is a lot of distance for solids to travel. I've
even gone so far as to toss the used T.P. in a waste basket (with lid)
during the winter to prevent annoying and costly pipe clogs.
I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts :)
Water centric appliances like bidets will become less popular as water
becomes scarcer. Digester toilets are already available and likely to
become legal where they are now illegal and even more popular as water
becomes less plentiful.
On 10/2/2015 7:31 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You can buy toilet seats with build in bidets, you don't need a new
toilet. Costco often has them, in store, (from Korea) for around
$150-200. Online see
There is a remote control to select the cycle based on the gender of the
user, and the water pressure you want. Just be careful. I once pressed
the wrong button (female front) and got my balls washed.
On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 10:33:43 AM UTC-4, email@example.com wrote:
Where traditional bidets are used, they are in addition to a standard
toilet. There are fancy Japanese toilets costing up to $10K,
that combine a bidet function into the toilet, including electronic
controls, etc. AFAIK, you still use TP with those too.
When I was in Turkey a couple months ago I was pleasantly pleased with
the toilets there. There is an additional spout near the top of the
bowl with a separate water valve that you control. It sprays water
toward you and you can adjust the aim by moving your butt around a bit.
The toilet wasn't anything fancy and all it had was an extra hole and
extra valve and hose.
On 10/2/2015 10:31 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
If you are young and don't have any hemorrhoids or other anatomic issues
in that location, and your stool is always fairly dry and firm, you
might be "clean" after a bidet spray. However, you're probably at least
borderline constipated. For those of us who have lived longer and don't
have pristine anatomy down there, or have softer stool due to any one of
many possible causes, the bidet is definitely insufficient to prevent
skid marks. Only the use of toilet paper can do the job that needs to
I always thought a bidet was for *women's* use. Not intended to remove
any "clinging mass".
The hot air dryers are more sanitary -- as are the "hospital style"
faucets (assuming they don't have Ir controlled faucets).
[Note that doctors don't typically touch the sink hardware after
Some of the hot air driers use a focused sheet of air to sort of "squeegee"
the water off your hands, instead of evaporating it.
But, all of these fall down because you still have to (typically push)
open the door (that everyone else has handled before you!) to exit
the bathroom! (wiser move is to use a paper towel to dry hands; then
use that towel to open the door, discarding it AFTER opening the door)
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 02 Oct 2015 17:42:14 -0700, Don Y
I suppose but I haven't been sick with an infection for years. Any
medical problems I've had have been mechanical, or my overfunctioning
parathyroid, which I don't think is caused by germs.
When I was in college, I had fantasies about med school and I joined the
pre-med club. I think the only two activities it had was matching up
pairs of members and telling them when they could go to an autopsy or
surgery. I did both.
For surgery, I met some girl there at 7 or 8 in the morning and someone
who worked there us told us where to go. The first room was brain
surgery on a child, so the table was so crowded we couldn't get close
enough to see anything, The second room had the consul general of
Sweden, who was having abdominal surgery. Now this was a famous
university with a famous teaching hospital. I don't think we had gowns
on, and I know we didn't have gloves or masks
When we walked into the room, after a couple minutes the doctors and
nurse split so we could get close. His side was maybe 8 inches or less
from me and I was leaning over, closer and closer until my face was less
than 2 feet, probably about 18 inches, from his wide open gut. No one
told me to hold my breath, but it seemed like the polite thing to do.
Finally, I feared that my shoe would slip on the smooth floor and I
would fall face first into his abdomen, so I straightened up. No lie.
That's exactly what happened. No one had warned me about anything or
told me to straighten up or stop.
Oh, yeah, we hadn't washed our hands either, except while waiting I may
have gone to the toilet and washed my hands then, but they didn't ask.
However, I was careful not to stick my hand inside him. Etiquette, you
I guess since it was a top-notch school, the doctors figured we'd be
smart enough to keep our hands out of him.
I don't remember how close she got. Maybe like me but she didn't bend
over much. And each organ was a different color, just like in a drawing
of the abdomen. This was before anyone cared about minimally invasive
and the open area was as big as a dinner plate, or maybe a square in
which a dinner-plate-sized circle could be inscribed.
And this wasn't the 19th century. It was about 1965.
I've heard this. If I make it to old age, I may feel more vulnerable
and try harder to stay well.
I don't sweat the little things when visiting friends' homes, etc.
OTOH, when I'm in a public bathroom in a store frequented by
all sorts of folks -- some of whom may be ill, just handled
their privates, just changed their child's diaper (on the
changing tables that are present in rest rooms), etc. -- I
try to be a bit more careful about where I put my hands
that *they* might also have done in the course of using the
Likewise, watch to see where they *seat* their kids (leaking diapers?)
in the shopping cart and consider what *you* may put in those same
places *in* the cart! :>
[Or, the waiting room at doctor's office, etc.]
OToOH, I don't think I've ever availed myself of the "wipes"
that most stores now seem to have by the front entrance -- despite
seeing folks use them to elaborately wipe down their shopping
carts! There's some inherent "risk" with being "out in public".
If you're a germophobe, then that's not the place for you!
OTOoOH (three-handed Martian?), I've spent hundreds of hours
doing volunteer work at places where folks have come away with
MRSA skin infections from the sorts of items we routinely handled.
True... You may not know where others' hands have been, but you know
Reminds me of the old joke about the sailor and the Marine taking a whiz
in the public restroom (okay, diehards, in the head). They finish up
and the sailor goes to walk out without washing his hands and the Marine
sez, "Hey, Swabby, in the Marines they teach us to wash our hands after
we go to the bathroom!"
Without batting an eye or slowing in his exit the Swab's retort is,
"...and in the Navy they teach us not to piss on our fingers!"
But, notice how many strange looks you get when you come *into* a rest room
and immediately go to wash your hands -- *then* do your business! Then, wash
*again*! All from folks who probably NEVER wash theirs! :>
When baking, it's a must (before and after). Having a flour-coated
pecker feels (and *looks*) really "unnatural"! Likewise for butter
or most other "ingredients"!
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