Our bathroom is due for a remodeling. The tub is the major item that
has caused disagreement between me and my wife. It is a 20 something
American Standard enamel model. My wife wants it replaced with the
same type of tub. To avoid the mess I suggested putting in a "Bath
Fitter" acrylic, fit over the old tub alternative that I learned about
on the web. Wife says that since you cannot use powder cleansers (like
Comet) to clean "rings around tub" and there are no 5 or 10 year
installations that we can look at, she is very opposed. Would greatly
appreciate information and opinions about this issue; especially as to
any known problems or possitive information about acrylic bathtubs--new
or fitted over types. Thanks.
That's one way. Another way is to not use (real) soap.
Yet another way is to use a lime soap dispersant when (real) soap is
used, either mixed with the soap or added separately to the water (as
bath foam, for instance).
Yet another way is to use the shower only, and not let the water back
up. You may still get a layer of scum, just not as prominent as a
That's a lot of pressure.
I'm glad I'm not that wife.
Funny enough, we too need a replacement tub and have been considering
those type you simply put on overtop of what's there. So far it seems
that ripping it all out and putting in brand new will work best
long-term but I"m interested in seeing what others suggest to the OP
Home Depot, probably others, sell an epoxy based paint kit for tubs.
It is time consuming because you need to 'wash' the tub with an acid,
rinse thoroughly, let dry overnight, paint the tub, let dry for at
least two days. Everything needed is included in the kit for about $40
(acid, paint, roller, etc). Just use gloves and goggles and be
prepared for an awful smell for about a week from the paint.
Results are ok but probably just as good as a plastic insert would be.
It's only $40, give it a try.
I've read that the new urethane finishes are the best;they don't yellow and
stay glossy;you clean them with 409 or Fantastic.
I haven't seen any DIY kits yet,though.
I was looking around on Google,and a company offers a 2 part urethane paint
for $90,for BT refinishing. Kromakote 8901-8;3 qts.(2 resin,1 hardener)
I have not tried this product.
bathfitters originally developed for hotels to get more life from
existing tubs. hotels plan on bathfitters then 5 years later gut bath
and start over.
its a good temporary fix, long tewrm a new tub is better
My neighbor had hers done ... there is one piece for the shower and one
piece for the tub. She says it sure is easier to keep clean as far as
mold and mildew goes. We are in FL. where that is a big problem.
Anyway, my tub was acrylic (house built in '83) and I had it refinished
two years ago. It didn't hold up too well. Now I need to decide
whether to get a new tub or have the "re-bath" people come out. I
would like to know if it is possible to take out the old tub and
replace it without taking out the lavatory and commode ... the room
measures 5x7 and the tub is on the far wall with a window over it. If
I have to take out the other stuff, I believe the costs for labor would
be so high that it would not be practical to buy new tub. Does anyone
know? The re-bath price is quite high...according to neighbor.
Is your bathroom like the bathroom in an airplane, where everything is
one piece? If not, why would you have to take out the sink and
To give them space to work, I don't think so.
The bath fitter type price is high, but isn't it still a lot lower
than a new tub? That is, if you have a built in tub with the ends
covered by the walls. If one end and one side is not against a wall,
you can just pull out the tub and put in the new one, I assume. If
you have a tub on legs, it's even easier.
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:21:18 GMT, "Art"
I agree with that. I wouldn't use any powder cleanser on a tub,
unless it was ruined already. They feel better and look better when
they are smooth, and I don't think any finish stays smooth with powder
cleansers (except maybe the one with the little chicken on the can and
the motto "It hasn't scratched yet", but I don't even use that. I
know her mother used Comet, so did my mother (although I don't know
why. She was at least 40 years old before it came out. I was 5 or
10), but they have invented other things now. I use scrubbing
bubbles (DOW?) and although for a few months, the name annoyed me, and
the fact that I could rub all the dirt off in certain places (while I
was in the tub, which of course makes the water dirtier, and there
were places where it didn't work) made me feel I was wasting my money.
But I'm back to being happy with it, as I have been 90% of the time.
(If you let it sit for too long after spraying, it dries out, and when
you wet it again, it's not as easy to remove the dirt as when it only
sat for a couple minutes)
As to Bath Fitter, they are beautiful tubs. They come in several
colors and even swirls. The house across the street just got a white
one put in. There are similar products sold probably at both Lowes
and HD. For sure I saw one in the exit room at Lowes a week ago.
There are two reasons I don't get it. A)It would take a quarter to a
half inch off the length of my tub, I think, (is that true?) and the
tub is already too short.
B) I have an epoxee paint that I want to try first. Because my tub
was so uncomfortable, I made a foam rubber cushion, 4 inches thick,
the width of the tub, and from 6 inches above to the top to 6 inches
below. That was very comfortable!! But the bottom never dried and it
ruined a strip of finish about an inch high most of the way across the
end of the tub.
Now I make a cushion that is half as tall, just goes above the tub,
doesn't get wet, and it's just as comfortable. I wish I had known
that befofre. Neither cushion has a cover, because I coudln't think
of how to make one, and I have to replace the thing every 5 or 6 years
when it gets too dirty, or sags in the middle.
I expect if you treat these things right, they'll look as good after
10 years as they do new. If not, then you can get a whole new tub,
and that tub will be ten years newer than it otherwise would be. Arem
t bath fitters a lot cheaper than the standard replacement, with
plastering and everything? I can think you can dicker about price
with bath fitter. More like a car than a Double Whopper.
He asked for an opinion. I gave one. I'd spend my money the same way.
Doing a half assed re-model does not make sense. It is much more costly a
year or two from now if they made the wrong decision with the acrylic and
want to replace the entire tub.
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