Any suggestions for unclogging a shower drain elsewhere?
A friend called just now with a plumbing problem saying
her shower is backing up into the bedroom, so I pulled my old
BrassCraft Cable Drum Machine BC-400 out of storage - but it
is in sad shape (long story):
The current cable is apparently 3/8" x 75 feet with an aircraft
wire core running through the center.
Even my hand snake is in bad shape (probably left outside):
So, it looks like I'm in need of a snake to unclog a shower stall.
For the BC400, I'm wondering if a 100 foot cable replacement would
be better than a 75 foot cable; but I don't even know if it will
I called BrassCraft at 877-272-7755 who said to call Cobra at
800-835-2200 and I left a couple of messages earlier today, but
they haven't responded.
It's not a big deal, but, if you have experience with either
unclogging a shower or with fitting replacing 75 foot or 100 foot
cable snakes, I'd appreciate the advice.
Good grief dude! You have a unique knack of making one hell
of a project ot of what is usually a simple thing. A 100 ft snake to
unclog a shower drain? Even in the largest house, if the shower
is the only problem, it's probably in the trap which is almost
always within a few feet away, or maybe even before the trap....
I have visions of a long thread with 100 posts, as Danny tries
to figure out how to take apart 100 ft of plumbing to get the
snake out that is now stuck in the ladies pipes....
On Thu, 23 May 2013 11:10:09 -0700, email@example.com wrote:
Since my friend needed it yesterday, I bought a new 25 foot 1/4"
and 50 foot 3/8" snakes from Ace Hardware:
I have very little experience with snakes, but how do you
prevent the cable from rusting?
Also, the 50 foot 3/8" cable I bought yesterday did not
come with any wire inside - but the original 75 foot snake
did have a thick wire inside.
Does it matter if the cable doesn't have that thick wire?
On Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:10:09 PM UTC-4, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You're just realizing this now?
Ol' Danny D is what we call a DIY douchebag. They like to talk a lot and act all
bright and cheery while asking the stupidest questions and turning the driving
of a simple nail into a 3-day melodrama involving several hundred dollars' worth
On Fri, 24 May 2013 11:56:27 -0700, dennisgauge wrote:
I've never heard the term before.
It's my mom's fault.
She taught me to be polite & responsive to everyone.
Plus, I've been on nntp since the early 1990s, and I've
seen what happens when people get personal - so if it
gets nasty, I try to be nice - and if it's still nasty,
I just bow out of the conversation or ignore the insults.
Is it really stupid to ask what tools to use to unclog plumbing?
Or to ask the technique to get the snakes to go their full length?
It cost me roughly about fifty bucks for the two snakes.
Truth be told, I could have gotten away with only one snake, but,
I love to learn things - so I bought the second snake so that I
could learn how they worked (since they were so different, I
figured I could compare the differences to learn more.
Well, it also cost about $120 for the replacement 75' snake,
but that won't arrive for another week (I had lent my drum snake
to a friend who accidentally kinked it and broke the cable).
So, you're correct if I add up the total cost for the three
snakes; but only two were bought for my friend's plumbing.
"shower is backing up into the bedroom" ??
Is water coming up thru the bedroom floor (leak), or is water
overflowing the shower pan (clog)??
If leak , good luck.
If clog, go to hardware and get the "Drain-O" type kit that has the
red plastic "snake" . It is thin enough to fit without needing to
remove drain plug cover.
On Fri, 24 May 2013 11:35:10 -0700, email@example.com wrote:
She is a hard-working single mom, who had to take showers to go
to work to feed her kids. She pours out her heart for those kids.
She could use the help - so I was glad to try, even though I was
clearly clueless myself. Luckily, she cleaned up the mess that
I left as I hadn't thought ahead to bring any cleaning supplies
with me (where are my pool chemicals when I need them!).
Anyway, the hair clog wouldn't plunge out, but it came out within
seconds of inserting the 3/8" snake about 3 feet. I spent more time
trying to get the snakes to go their full length (to ensure that
I did my best for her).
In doing so, my biggest dilemma was trying to figure out *why*
the two snakes wouldn't go anywhere near their full lengths!
I couldn't believe that these 2-inch (or so) pipes wouldn't take
a quarter inch snake further than about 10 feet, nor would the
pipes accommodate the 3/8 inch snake more than about 3 feet.
What did I do wrong that those snakes wouldn't travel their
It's a long story, and it's OT, but suffice to say she put up
with way more for far too long than she should have, so, the
current situation ... as bad as it is ... is still better for
her and her kids (she has them 100% of the time) than the previous
Most likely you ran into a 90 degree connection, and had got stuck against
The trick is to have a slight bend at the head of the snake about 1-2" back
This does 2 things
1) It helps when you need to get around a T (usually at the standpipe
2) It whips the head around the internal circumference of the pipe and
cleans off all the goo stuck inside the pipe.
On Thu, 23 May 2013 15:34:56 -0400, Retired wrote:
Luckily the drain cover popped out with a twist of a screwdriver.
Now that I have my first experience with a shower stall, I must ask
how you're *supposed* to twist the darn 3/8" snake by hand?
They give you a handle which I used like this to get the hair out:
But, every time I tried to twist that almost-straight handle, *this*
twisting mess is what happened to the cable:
May I ask:
How are you supposed to spin that 3/8" cable with that handle
without twisting the rest of the cable into a gory mess?
You only have about 6" of snake between the handle and the drain
opening. You work that 6" down and then move the handle 6" away from
the drain and repeat over and over until things work ok. Patience (and
sometime a half-galon of Draino) always wins.
Yes, I agree. I forgot to add part when I responded earlier. I have found
that when the snake is advancing easily, that's fine. But, when it
encounters a restriction, blockage, or sharp turn in the pipe that it cannot
navigate, I have to keep the handle of the snake no more than about 6 inches
away from the drain and then turn and push on it at the same time. That
keeps the snake from acting like I am pushing on a string (where it just
bends and buckles). The rest of the snake is inside the pipe and that helps
keep it from bending. So, the idea is to only be pushing on about 6 inches
of exposed snake near the drain so that 6 inches is too small for the snake
to bend at that point.
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