40 gal just not enough: Replacing water heater for 2400 sq home. Family of 2 adults + 2 children

[ransley]

I think all tankless are non pilot now. Mine was 5 years ago its 2 d cell, its battery ignition, and hydro gen was offered then.

[ransley]

Go to Takagi.com or

, If sized right , mainly meaning NG supply, they work. I have one.

[ransley]

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A flue is a chimney, it is a heat loss, only controled by Btu input and airflow. Holes in walls waste energy.

[ransley]

This is completely wrong, most heat loss is up the chimney, a total waste of energy. Tankless only heat water when you need it, not from whatever =3D 7pm - 6am.. Tankless saved ME MONEY and Im happy... and dont sell or work with Tanlkess companies. Now how abourt Foam Roofing !!! A way to save $$$$

[ransley]

hallerb ignores all logic, he just posts shit.

[bigjimpack]

when going on vacation I turn my water heater to vacation setting. i doubt it comes on then and costs almost nothing. i too am not sold on the tankless.

[ransley]

You need someone to check Gas Flow or supply with a Manometer. To be sure at your lowest winter temps, with all competing appliances on, and calculating winter reduced flow YOU HAVE THE BTUs most installers are to dumb to do it. .

[ransley]

Yea and HW is the biggest waste for most, so what is your Point . Zero. as I see it....Zero in your attacks

[hallerb]

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please post the link to the 30 year lifetime, a water heater is much more than a copper coil of pipe, a modern no pilot tankless has lots of electronic controls water use sensors etc that can go bad..... heck over time technology changes a lot, with ICs your out of business. a good example is modern high efficency furnaces, they dont last near as long as the old ones did.....

will the manufacturer even stock a part at a reasonable price after the warranty has expired?

your rose colored glasses must make everything a garden of eden, even when its a swamp filled with hungry gators...

so google the 30 year lifetime, and post it............

[ransley]

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Show me a tank with 10 year warranaty and I show you a tankkless with

30 year , wake up moron, tankless are pipe with coil

[ransley]

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You are a freakin moron--- learn to Google it might help your ignorance

[ransley]

Hallerb ignores all facts , he is Hallerb

[hallerb]

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so show me the 30 year warranty or expected life............

bottom line you wouldnt because you cant......

calling names just demeanes you.

[ransley]

Heat loss, Up chimney, you calculated wrong, sorry bub, your loss is more than you think. Your loss is 24x7 and its alot of BTUs up and out, you dont know jack on saving jack.

[Norminn]

This thread is worse than Chinese spam, and that is saying something! If you finish up by email, you can type dirty words and really vent :o)

[Paul M. Eldridge]

Hi Mark,

Just to be clear, there is no natural gas service in our neighbourhood

-- there are perhaps 500 homes in the entire province that have access to it, if that. Consequently, our DHW tanks are electric, although a small percentage are oil-fired and with rare exception propane (at $1.25 per litre/$4.70 per gallon, propane is almost three times more costly than electric). The heat losses I speak of are in relation to electric water heaters, not gas.

Cheers, Paul

[ransley]

And HW waste just shows your overalll ignorance

[ransley]

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Link - you do a google and refute me.............

[ransley]

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Shit mine is 10 years old and no issues, I dont care of your worries im insatallin a new unit at a new location, so I save, so you piss it away , go yourself and waste it Hal boy, you always have. Keep a waisten Hal Boy.

[hallerb]

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ransley posts nothing but complaints, and refuses to post verified links.....

he just talks like a authority, claims stuff but doesnt know what he is talking about.........