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220 kitchen appliance into a 220 american clothes dryer outlet?

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John T.

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hubops
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John T, Thank you !! I had been searching for such a clear diagram showing European 220V has only ONE hot wire.

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retired1

Sure, assuming the appliance can handle 240V instead of 220V, which an iron should be OK with and it's a modern 4 prong 240V receptacle. Older 3 prong ones have a shared neutral and ground, which will also work, but raises the usual theoretical safety issues that have been discussed here many times.

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trader_4

There isn't just one 220V wire, the electrons would pile up. There are two wires plus a ground.

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trader_4

Once again, European 220 has only ONE 220V hot wire, not two 110V hot wires like US 220V outlet

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retired1

Per those diagrams, the two 220V wires are called the hot and neutral. There is 220V between them, just like there is 240V between the two hots in the US.

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trader_4

Electric ranges (in the US) are supposed to have an accessible disconnect. The common way of providing one is to have the range plug in to a receptacle behind. It is accessible by pulling out a drawer at the bottom and reaching through to the back. (Else there should be something like a lockable breaker.)

Canada may have a different rule.

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bud--

You make an adapter that plugs into the 220 volt plug and connect L1 to one side of the euro plug and L2 to the other terminal of the euro plug. DEAD SIMPLE

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Clare Snyder

What's the big deal? the stove has a euro 220 plug on it. Not like some idiot is going to plug a 120 volt appliance into it???

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Clare Snyder

No, mine is behind the rangem which is why I modofoed the range - but my dryer plug is in the casement behind the drier which would make plugging the waffle iron in nad using it rather problemaic. The welfer/compressor plug in the garage is closer to the kitchen - and since I have 2 "edison circuits" in the kitchen I COULD have wired up an "aggagator plug" that plugs into both sides of the "split" outlet with a 240 volt plug socket on the end of the cord - but then you need to plug THAT into the wall every time you want 240.

Much simpler in the long run to just pull 220 from inside the range to a propper 220 volt outlet on the range - no???

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Clare Snyder

A lot are just 2 lines and NO ground

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Clare Snyder

You didn't read this question first. I guess the answer is No, but then your sentences before that confuse me.

If you mean outlets right in the range facing the user, my last two stoves don't have those and I don't think they are very common.

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micky

I would hate to try that. All kinds of metal parts in the way. And I think my 1979 house has an outlet too hight to reach after pulling out the drawer at the bottom. I would have to move the stove, which I think is easier than crawling on the floor sticking my arm through the possibly dirty stove.

I have a breaker in the basement, but it's not lockable. I've never heard of a lockable breaker for home use.

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micky

Despite that, I think you can just connect the wire that went to the hot to one of the USA hots, and the wire that went to the neutral to the other USA hot. The potential between the two in the US and UK are just about the same and that's what matters.

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micky

As long as that neutral is well insulated from the rest of the waffle iron.

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Bob F

So I have a related question. I play webradio a lot but during commercials or parts I don't like, I turn off the sound. Aren't the electrons piling up somewhere in my PC and is there anyway I could use them for something else like lights?

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micky

UK is neutral + 220V "live". I think UK commonly has "earth" connection. The UK had the 'advantage' of sorta starting over after WW2.

I think neutral + 220V live is standard in europe.

Not obvious if that is "2 lines".

With that wiring just the single live would be switched. Presumably if connected to US 240 both hots should be switched.

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bud--

The point is there aren't parts in the way.

Lot easier to reach through the hole with the drawer removed. Or is one side of the stove accessible - no cabinet? Or is the cord long enough that you can move the stove completely out of the way?

You aren't cooking in the drawer - I haven't seen one particularly dirty.

Many brands have an attachment to the breaker that allows locking it.

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bud--

I haven't heard of the 'reach through the drawer opening' method. When I need to access the power plug, chances are good that I also need to remove the rear panel of the range to do some inspection or work inside, so I always just slide the range away from the wall far enough to where I can walk behind it.

Besides, there isn't always a kid available to act like a monkey and make his way through the small drawer opening. I'm sure I couldn't do it myself.

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Jim Joyce

On my trip to pennsylvanai a couple weeks ago I went to see the house I lived in until I was 10. The woman who owns it was reticent at first but soon was very welcoming, let me see the attic and the basement too.

In the upstairs hall were drawers and my mother was from the city and worried about burglars when we went to see my grandmother every summer. So she took out the drawers and had me crawl inside and stash the "jewels" behind them. By the time I was 9 or 10, I was too big to do this. When I saw them this summer, they sure looked really small.

The basement now had a sump pump, which we didn't have. When we were there, it frequently got wet and the washer and dryer were on hand-made wooden crates so they wouldn't get ruined. The sump pump kept the floor dry I guess, although maybe waterproof paint would have been even better. Other than the sump pump the basement was all unpainted cement or cinder block and as barren as when I left it 66 years ago. She had been there only 20 years but there was still some coal in the coal celler when she moved in. (My father had put in a stoker, so my mother wouldnt' have to stoke the furnace. But he had to shovel just as much coal, not all day but in the morning and evening. He was 53 years old when he bought the house. He soon changed to gas. But some of the coal remained.)

They didn't put in AC until 2012, because there is a big oak tree that extends over almost the whole house that kept it from getting hot. But they did have AC now, and they'd redone kitchen entirely. Moved the sink, the window, the stove. Removed the swinging door to the dining room. We had a breakfast nook with what looked like a built-in L-shaped bench. That was gone before she got the house.

In the living room, there was a mirror, made up of about 9 adjacent pieces, the biggest one in the center, that extended from behind the sofa to the ceiling, from one window to another, and I think it was the same mirror, 66 years later. It pays to buy good in the first place. It might even have been there when my father bought the house in 1945, seems too expensive for my mother to have added.

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micky

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