"The difference is that with products you use at home, you have a
about using them, and how they're used. With agricultural chemicals,
have NO choice. The decision is made for you, not only as to their
but also whether the ones used are safe. Get it? "
Nice non-response. Must I smash this nonsense too? You are one of
those guys that thinks he's one of the smart elite and everyone else is
too dumb to read a label or make a choice. You think the rest of us
need someone else to figure this out and make the choices for us.
Some folks really concerned about making the best choice for us, like
farmers and the DOA, who are more concerned with shipping cows, than
seriously looking for mad cow. Only a couple years ago farmers were
selling downer cattle that couldn't even stand up for human food. Even
now, in the US, 1 in 90 cattle are tested for mad cow, while in Japan
it's 100% and in Europe, it's 1 in 4. Or the folks that pump cattle
full of hormones to fatten their profits. But THEY must know what's
good for the rest of us when it comes to using a chemical, right? And
they make those choices without regard to what's most cost effective or
easiest for them right? LOL!
The funniest part about this is all one has to do is take a look at the
BS you posted about clover presence in a lawn being a problem with PH
or nutrients to see how knowledgable and well informed you really are
about things that you profess to know. That must be why you keep
asking people how old they are, so you can find a suitable 10 year old
to believe your rantings.
Aw, c'mon. Does proving one's point have to include snipping at each other?
I'm the first to admit that I enjoy wisecracks, sarcasm and snappy reparte
among close friends, but it doesn't work here.
Suzy O, self-appointed resident proxy mom
Lysol is a neurotoxin. Most neurologists recommend against using it,
especially around anyone who might be vulnerable (the elderly,
disabled, children, people with compromised immune systems, other
illnesses, etc). When you inhale the particles, it goes directly into
your system. One doesn't need to ingest such products to be harmed by
them. It's fairly well understood in the medical community that the
increase in toxins, pollutants, chemical products, etc over the years
has had a summative and cumulative effect on the general health of the
From here, the Extension Toxicology Network (ExToxNet), it appears it has
been tested, including on humans: http://extoxnet.orst.edu/pips/24-D.htm .
This, by the way, is usually where I get my pesticide info.
Hey Stubby, don't use it if you're afraid of it. No one is holding a gun to
your head either way.
The Kernels Chicken has been rumored to give lab rats cancer, everytime
they give them three times their body weight of dark meat too.
What's a mother to do?
"Slow down with the weird remedies. I've read in multiple agricultural
sources that clover indicates either a nutrient imbalance or a problem
pH. Both are easy to deal with, without using any sort of chemical
(other than lime and/or the right lawn food). Where are you located?
what's so bad about clover? "
Another fine example that demostrates Doug's ignorance about lawn care.
He thinks any lawn problem can be easily solved without using
chemicals. In fact, clover grows quite nicely in exactly the same soil
nutrient conditions and PH ranges that lawn grasses do. You can fiddle
with nutrients and PH till the cows come home and the clover will still
Clover is actually beneficial to the lawn, as clover puts nitrogen into
the soil. However if you don't like the look, you can fix it quite
simply with an application of any of the broadleaf weed killers. It
should not be done in very hot weather though.
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