Paul Milligan, founder of alt.hvac

[hvacmam]

I haven't been around for awhile, I used to post a lot here in the late nineties. Anyone know what happened to the founder of this group?

[Tony944]

It seems that no one knows I remember his posting that he is no longer going be posting reason "Unknown" me and him did not see eye to eye but I still like his controversial comments. SORRY

I haven't been around for awhile, I used to post a lot here in the late nineties. Anyone know what happened to the founder of this group?

[PaxPerPoten]

????

[Tony944]

????

[Stormin Mormon]

Can't say for total sure. On the edge of my memory, he chose suicide a couple years ago. You might try a google groups search on the matter. I remember his posting style was consistent: Abrasive, abusive, and insulting.

I do miss Turtle, he was polite, and helped me out more than a few times when I could not figure out a problem. He recognized I was a new tech, but honest and sincere.

[TomR]

Yes, I do miss seeing those "This is Turtle" posts. He was always helpful and obviously knew a lot.

[Stormin Mormon]

Not many posters now days know their trade, and willing to help others.

[ftwhd]

Um.. no.

[PaxPerPoten]

Paul Milligan is dead and gone. See Vicki for details. Are you still doing Sturgis?

[Stormin Mormon]

Interesting info on Paul.

I tried the search box, which doesn't seem to be working today.

[ftwhd]

Yes. Always figured Paul was a coward.

[PaxPerPoten]

And I thought you two were soulmates.. ;-)

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[PaxPerPoten]

Obviously you are not either!

[Tony944]

[dieselolds]

Uhhh-- pretty sure that is a different Paul Milligan

[mcdonough562]

He was one of the original geeks who acted tuff behind the keys. He had a l ot of useful knowledge but was a JO. Once HVAC-Talk was started everyone le ft his group. Yes there were good people there trying to share their knowl edge and learn from others. Hard to believe it was 20 years ago.

[Landru]

I was told that he came from NYC Originally. Someone wrote to tell me he passed away. At the time there was more concentration on criticizing techs than helping them. This group began to die.

Found this article of 4 months ago:

which appears to be a report of a DWLR (Driv

which indicates Paul was now living in California with his wife. Could be another Paul Milligan?

On a personal note, I came into the trade as an apprentice in NYC in

1967. I retired while working in Denver Colorado in 2007, (forty years later) so I am qualified to have noticed how the trade went from honerable to dishonorable. Far too much criticism and defense that too many were looking for "Free Help". In 40 years, I've only met two other techs that knew the proper way to charge a unit. I was up on the roof of a temp building one day and after repairing a leak, I was charging the R-22 system when another tech came up the ladder behind me and almost scared the wits out of me yelling "68 lbs!" I went the through the process I had learned when that older tech muttered "That God Dam Larry" meaning another tech told him the charge target was 68 lbs. This is how information gets around. I've worked with Plumbers, Electricians, Iron Workers (All the other trades) and never found such disrespect for one another as I found in our own trade and I have to admit that after a few arguments from the miss-informed, I ceased trying to educate. During one of my short periods on the bench, I went to a tech school in SE Denver and the man who interviewed me saw through my application as he said, "I'd love to have you here on the staff but I know you wouldn't stay. As soon as your union calls you, you'll drag me up and go back to union work. Well, that's where my bread and butter was coming from; I didn't try to talk my way out of that one. He was correct in his assessment of me.

[amdx]

They age is not what other records have listed, how about the address?

[Geoman]

replying to PaxPerPoten, Geoman wrote: Paul Milligan dead? Moved to CA and became CEO of a corporation that made one metal box to hold credit cards? I question these reports, he is however behind on his trailer taxes since 2016 which is suspicious, but I did a death certificate search for N.C and came up with nothing.

[Geoman]

replying to PaxPerPoten, Geoman wrote: His tax records show he owes on his $4,700 trailer since 2016, why wasn't this settled in probate if he died?