It seems that no one knows I remember his posting that he is no longer going
be posting reason "Unknown"
me and him did not see eye to eye but I still like his controversial
"hvacmam" wrote in message
I haven't been around for awhile, I used to post a lot here in the late
nineties. Anyone know what happened to the founder of this group?
"ftwhd" wrote in message
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He was one of the original geeks who acted tuff behind the keys. He had a l
ot of useful knowledge but was a JO. Once HVAC-Talk was started everyone le
ft his group. Yes there were good people there trying to share their knowl
edge and learn from others. Hard to believe it was 20 years ago.
On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 19:42:41 -0700 (PDT), email@example.com
I was told that he came from NYC Originally. Someone wrote to tell me
he passed away. At the time there was more concentration on
criticizing techs than helping them. This group began to die.
Found this article of 4 months ago:
which appears to be a report of a DWLR (Driving While License Revoked)
and appears to have nothing to do with his death. Another post from
the archives said:
which indicates Paul was now living in California with his wife. Could
be another Paul Milligan?
On a personal note, I came into the trade as an apprentice in NYC in
1967. I retired while working in Denver Colorado in 2007, (forty years
later) so I am qualified to have noticed how the trade went from
honerable to dishonorable. Far too much criticism and defense that too
many were looking for "Free Help". In 40 years, I've only met two
other techs that knew the proper way to charge a unit. I was up on
the roof of a temp building one day and after repairing a leak, I was
charging the R-22 system when another tech came up the ladder behind
me and almost scared the wits out of me yelling "68 lbs!" I went the
through the process I had learned when that older tech muttered
"That God Dam Larry" meaning another tech told him the charge target
was 68 lbs. This is how information gets around.
I've worked with Plumbers, Electricians, Iron Workers (All the other
trades) and never found such disrespect for one another as I found in
our own trade and I have to admit that after a few arguments from the
miss-informed, I ceased trying to educate. During one of my short
periods on the bench, I went to a tech school in SE Denver and the man
who interviewed me saw through my application as he said, "I'd love to
have you here on the staff but I know you wouldn't stay. As soon as
your union calls you, you'll drag me up and go back to union work.
Well, that's where my bread and butter was coming from; I didn't try
to talk my way out of that one. He was correct in his assessment of
Can't say for total sure. On the edge of my memory,
he chose suicide a couple years ago. You might try
a google groups search on the matter. I remember
his posting style was consistent: Abrasive, abusive,
I do miss Turtle, he was polite, and helped me out
more than a few times when I could not figure out
a problem. He recognized I was a new tech, but
honest and sincere.
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