Or wait until they have R-410B and then you'll really get fucked.
Let's face it you have to have PLANNED obsolescence in products
or we'd all be out of work. Yeah I know the "new" refrigerant is
good for the environment.......the PAYCHECK environment.
There are a number of factors which will drive costs. Which refrigerant
are you going with? R22 will be cheaper but there's a fear that you won't
be able to service your units in a few years as production of said
refrigerant and equipment will cease. I dunno, I can still get parts for
my 67 Ford Mustang just fine so it's not a real worry for me. The newer
refrigerant units (R-410 I believe) will cost more but supposedly will last
longer (ie. production of). That being said, all the guys that came out to
give me quotes seemed to think the R-410 was over hyped, under tested, and
not worth the extra expense. Time will tell. When the company did mine,
they had to run new supply lines through the ductwork under the house
(concrete slab), remove the old Evap. cooler, modify the furnace, and do all
the hookups. Mine's a 4 ton unit Rheem. Cost ended up being about $3400
however, I did all the electrical myself which saved about $500 off the bid
price. I got 3 quotes. The other 2 were: $6500 and $10000. Both had
the electrical in them. I'd definitely recommend getting as many quotes as
reasonable to narrow the price down. Good luck.
Yup... and that was all before the first of this year.... what you didn't
bother to tell the guy was the efficiencies of the systems in the other
bids. Paying $3400 for a 4 ton Rheem system *installed*, had to be for a 10
SEER system, or your installer got it out the back door of a supply house.
In case you didn't bother to look, January 28 2006 the minimum efficiency
got jacked up to 13 SEER.
FYI a 4 ton 13 SEER heat pump and air handler, *installed* runs in the
neighborhood of $6,000 - $7,000.
Danny, the warranty is a fair mark-up on price and a livable labor rate. It
is great when you can couple it with a PM contract. Then the customer never
turns down a repair, and you are already there doing a PM
Sure. RCBA048 Coil. RAND048JAZ 4 ton, 13 SEER condenser.
I hardly believe they'll be going belly up any time soon. They've been in
business here for over 35 years. (or is it 40. Don't remember but either
way they are one of the most respected outfits here in town). Just what
sort of labor rates are you using anyway?
I don't have the expansion valve numbers handy but what I do remember is the
combination gave me a SEER between 12-14. I haven't gotten my first
electric bill yet so time will tell. All I know is the system works great
and I didn't get bent over. Either way, the parts are relatively the same
price wise (certainly not thousands apart) so I still think $6-7k is still
too much. Keep in mind I did my own electrical....which knocked off $500.
Geese... you just can't seem to get your story straight..... if it has an
expantion valve on it, its either an RCHJ or an RCGJ, NOT an RCBA. The
RCBA-048 is 21 inches wide, the RCHJ/RCGJ-48A2 coils are 24 inches wide. I
suppose that you are still using a one-speed furnace with it?? To actually
*GET* 13 SEER with any of the Rheem "M" coils require a variable speed
blower....but you already knew that.
As I said, a RAND-048JAZ, with the *correct* coil and furnace combination,
*installed* is $6,000 - 7,000.
Well at the end of the day, I know what I've got is working just fine and
for half of what you seem to think it should have cost.
All the more reason to get more than one bid. I'm moving on to better
I love those...the: "what *I* have is working just fine" units....
Normally, they call back later and ask if the original quote to make it
rights good still.
BTW....dunno how many of you got your new price sheets this week...thanks to
copper going up, so did equipment....25% across the board.
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