The compressor in my 13-year old Lenox heat pump died yesterday
through an internal short. The repair guy told me that I could expect
to pay from $1700 to $1800 for a new one.
While I'm no HVAC guy, I do understand basic mechanics, and I know
that there is nothing either technologically or mechanically wondrous
about compressors. I can't get my head around why this part should
cost more than a replacement car engine or a nice riding lawn mower.
I had a good read on the technician. He was very candid and frank in
our discussion and he took the time to show me what his
troubleshooting steps were. He helped me explore possible
alternatives to save a buck, but he could not tell me why a new
compressor cost so much.
Am I being severely up-charged by the reseller, or is this the going
rate. If this is the going rate, then could anyone tell me why
they're so expensive? If it helps, the repair guy said my unit was a
4-tonner. I don't really know what that means, but I assume it
indicates the general size.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.
.......and you are going to know what with that info? Its a 4 ton. Get
over it "notAhvacGuy". Are you going to magically know all the details
to give him a price installed over the internet? You really are a
Even here in rural south Mississippi, 4 ton compressor replacement
*installed* is $1770.00 plus refrigerant and any applicable sales tax.
OTOH, you could spend 8 - 10 large for a replacement system that is a lot
more energy efficient, with the R-410a refrigerant, and a 10 parts and labor
Whether or not I buy an entirely new unit is the question right now.
If I go with the new unit, then I have to seriously consider replacing
the heat pump with an oil system. I'm not a big fan of heat pumps to
start with. They tend to just blow cold air non-stop.
I'm having a guy out today to give me some prices.
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:48:46 -0800 (PST), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Stop worrying so much about price and pay more attention to the
Does he know and use a micron gauge.
Can he braze "properly"
Does he really know how to charge a system properly
along with about 100 other details that would make your system last as
long as it should.
Personally, I wouldnt put a new compressor in a 13 yr old heat pump
unless I got it free (and that aint goina happen).
If the price bothers you so much, get another estimate.
I hear you, Bubba, and you make sense. I just really struggle with
the whole "throw it in the trash and buy a brand new one" mentality
that has taken over the country in the last 40 years. I still try to
fix everything I can from miter saws to socks.
That said, I will probably bite the bullet and buy a new one. The
thought of having better efficiency and performance appeals to me
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:42:22 -0800 (PST), email@example.com wrote:
Unfortunately, you'll have to "get over" the "throw it away"
mentality. Its a fact. IF you can fix it yourself them it might be
worth it but other than that it will cost you more in the long run.
Operating costs and the fact that the rest of the shit on the unit
will fail soon too. Thats just the way it is and us hvac guys dont run
cheap. Its not because we want to rape and pillage the customers. Its
just a fact that our operating expenses are ridiculous like many other
by the way.....the "hvacguy" is an idiot so dont take to seriously
what he says.
Okay, Bubba, I've now obtained a few quotes. What would you do?
Amana - 15 Seer. 10 Year warranty on parts and a lifetime warranty on
the compressor. $6,500 installed.
Carrier Infinity - 16 Seer. 1 Year warranty on parts. $8,000
It should be obvious which direction I'm leaning, but I'm not familiar
with the equipment. Am I comparing a Lexus with a Hyundai?
I could live with either one as far as equipment goes and many more.
Obviously you can see prices vary widely.
Once again, you need to look at 3 very important parts.
1) Who is going to do the best install and be "johnny on the spot"
when it breaks down? (It Will break down, you know?)
2) Where is the 5 or 10 year LABOR !! warranty?
3) Who will do a proper load calculation when you sign on the dotted
Make price a factor but dont make it your ONLY factor!
"Atta Boy Dave! "
seriously , look into replacing it ,
and i'll guess that you called a lennox dealer too ?
13 years is a good run for a hp compressor ,
and lets suppose you can find one cheaper , or "not hvac guy"
can find you one on e-bay , who you gonna get to install it and warranty for
again , look into total replacement , cheaper in the long run , more nergy
efficient , and a manufacturers extended warranty to boot
you do the math ;-)
All depends one 4 ton compressor is pretty much good as the next .
Biggest deal is the acid test--not such a bigge to replace if no burnout--if
the contracter dint test or at least whiff the gas then he's outa the
Otherwise figure 600 or so recover braze, probly 5 hours tops and figure
60/hr-call around find a good mechanic.
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