13 SEER Splits not cooling!??!

Aug 09, 2006 101 Replies

Jake,

I am not in HVAC at all; I just find this a very interesting group and even through all the bickering, I try to pick up some information for my brain to absorb, plus lots of humor. My company's products are built for the graphic arts industry. We manufacture, sell, install, and service printing presses and bookbinding equipment. Our products start around 350K and most installations run about 3 to 5 million dollars. The high end equipment has many frequency inverter drives that are controlled by the multiple PLC's throughout the system(s) most of the bus we use is CAN, but we are also using Ethernet on our mid-range machinery to link the master PLC to an Ethernet hub, and from there on to link various modules of the machines. My company is based in Switzerland, and is the largest company in the world (so I hear) that produces the full range of equipment as we do. We use all European components, like B&R PLC's, and Lenze motor drives. Some machines have used (low end machines) Mitsubishi drives and Omron PLC's

I was a field service tech on the road for about 17 years, traveling all the time doing installs and service in all but 3 states (Oregon Washington, and Alaska), but since 1997, I have been doing telephone tech support for our customers and our service techs. I actually love what I do, but it is very stressful at times. I am quite experienced, but the technology just seems to get an awful lot to keep up with. I am 63 now, not the best anymore, but I get lots of respect from my peers for some reason. I broke my ass all those years and..ah, never mind, you know what I mean.

Even though HVAC is not rocket science, there is a lot of physics to know, and taking pride in doing a good job is super important in any field. HVAC is a good combination of mechanical and electrical skills.

I have lots of respect for the people in the HVAC trade that know their stuff and care to do a good job. Breaking your ass and working long hours can make the nicest guy seem like an asshole when stupid questions are asked of him. I get paid to help people fix stuff themselves over the phone. We give free tech support to our customers. Some customers have great maintenance electricians that I can easily help, and others, well, I have to first teach them how to use and read a meter if they can find one. "Sir, what is the problem with your machine?" "hey, if I knew, I wouldn't be calling you".

sorry for this long winded message

Bob

Rotary goes around continuously. Recip goes back and forth.

I'm a duck. But, being a duck isn't all it's quacked up to be.

When I'm in the moooooood, you can cow'nt on me. No bull!

Rotary means goes around. Can either be the old style, or scroll.

Recip means goes back and forth.

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You would have made a good BAS (Building Automation Systems) tech.

When I started, BAS's were built on mini computers and had separate Winchester hard drives the size of grocery carts. Floppy disks were

12-inch; a memory card was the half the size of a modern pc mother board and held a whopping 8 K of RAM.

The valve and damper actuators were all still pneumatic; there were about 20 union pipefitters working as pneumatic controls installers at the Honeywell branch when I hired on as a tech in 1982. DDC appeared about then. By the time I left in 1990, there were only two pipefitters left.

Those were the days...

Before you go and step in something you really don't want on your shoe, consider that the ignorant POS has been just as ignorant and doesn't *want* to learn....he has been on here for at least 5 years and hasn't learned a damn thing. 5 years(or more)...that doesn't constitute a "new" tech.

Care to do a little homework then try again??

OK smart ass.... how many different types of "rotary" compressors are there??

Axial and Radial.

I actually go back to 1962 when I worked for Burroughs in NYC as a field Engineer. Memory back then was toroidal donut windings core memory. So long ago, barely a memory.

I'm a duck. But, being a duck isn't all it's quacked up to be.

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Just don't say that out in some field around Dick Cheney.

I remember bubble memory on the Ailing-Badley 8200 robot controllers...

Dan Luke wrote When I started, BAS's were built on mini computers and had separate Winchester hard drives the size of grocery carts.

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Today's very OT trivia question: Why were they called "Winchester Drives"?

I'm guessing that Paul will get this one without Googling.

You know Stormy,

there's something about you that makes me feel bad each time I say something about you.

You must be a nice guy, but I think sometimes you'd be better off to engage your brain before you put your mouth into gear.

You have some kind of quality that makes you sound like the old definition of a geek: from a definition web site: "Originally, a `geek' was a carnival performer who bit the heads off chickens. Before about 1990 usage of this term was rather negative." As I said once before, you wear your own "kick me" sign.

Man, I feel even worse now. Corona Extra, please........oh, OK, Dos Equis XX will do fine gimme three. that margarita was bad s*it

Bob

c'mon Nathan, get a clue. stomin moron has been posting here a hell of a lot longer than you remember or know, and funny thing, he still insists he's a new tech...seven f****ng years a new tech....

as far as a learning curve, i can understand empathy for mentally deficient people, if that's what you're implying....

you seem intent on accepting stormin moron is capable of learning, so try teaching him something....

wait a minute....you're only charging $70 hr for service calls? s*it.....sounds like you and stormin moron may be paddling in the same boat!!!! lol

I know of three. One has an eccentric round piece that goes around in a hole. With a "vane", coming in from the side.

The second has two round disks, and two spiral flat pieces. This is called a scroll.

The third uses what look a bit like threaded shafts -- I think is called a "screw" compressor.

ok.... what about the rest of them

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