No kidding. But that's a direct blow to the chemical industry, and we
can't have that now, can we [rolls eyes]
I had a woman at the McLaughlin Gardens up in Paris, Maine tell me
about the wonders of Merit and using it for dealing with the lily
beetles. People have no clue.
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
Do you want to hear something sad? Over thirty years ago I worked for
a Bayer subsidiary, Cutter/Haver-Lockhart, animal health division, as
a quality control inspector.
I still remember and quote often, old Bob, the head of R&D, jokingly
telling the drones...."Dammit boys and girls, I want that data to
match these results." Was it an effing joke?
The stain and shame remains with me to this day. Every time I see or
hear the name Bayer I feel dirty.
That was the end of the Yellow Brick Road for me. We went back to the
farm, so to speak, and pulled in the edges around us.
They Care Only for the Profits
Everytime I voice my opinon regarding this, my reply is removed from the
So, you fill in the blanks.
Control of farming industry and negating any local gardening by the
consumer. How would you as a controlling participant, in such, attack this
Talk to John Bachman. He is the IPM pro here. He doesn't go for the
simple over-kill fix. He's in for the long term. John, come on in and
join the conversation.
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
OTOH, I am seeing all kinds of bumblebees this spring. Ingrid
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Thank you for the link to Dr. Mussen. Salon.com published a panel
discussion including Dr. Mussen. Interesting reading as the panelists
parse through the various theories and media reports.
You can read it here: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/05/29/missing_bees /
As for the poster who wrote about feeling dirty about Bayer -- Bayer
AG is a longtime purveyor of death including developing and
experimenting the use of mustard gas and other chemicals on inmates in
Germany during WWI and WWII, so anytime you use any of their products
you are supporting a company that, unlike a number of other German
companies, has never apologized to anyone. (I learned this in grade
school during the 60's as we were encouraged not to use any Bayer
products.) For a basic history of Bayer's misdeeds, go to
That would have been me. I wish I had learned this *before* I started
with them, rather than learning it on the job. I grew up with the
Dupont "Better Living Through Chemistry" school of thought and
Corp Watch is a good reference and I use it often, when making
decisions about products. It is sad, and maddening, that it takes so
much research to make informed and responsible purchasing decisions.
We oftimes think we are about to make a responsible choice, but when
you go to digging around, you sometimes encounter the darkness, several
layers deep, in the corporate structure.
Yet, general awareness *seems* to be increasing, thanks to the efforts
of people who are beginning to bang a few pots. Around these here
parts, even the generation older than I, the true old geezers, are
starting to fart in the general direction of the crooked bastids.
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