You enjoy reading false information, as found in John's "dictionary"? Ask a
question, on trees, and I will answer to the best of my ability. Or, follow
John, and stay confused.
Oh, wait, I forgot, you are the know it all.
Personally I find Johns postings boring and distant. Instead of just
referring to web sites, I would like it if he could state his take on a
question and then post a site that supports his conclusion but that is
just me. John doesn't have to make me happy, he is suppling information,
his way, and I can take it or leave it.
I would ask you, that if you find a mistake in John's dictionary, or in
any of his postings, please correct it without resorting to character
assassination. Then, maybe, we all could learn something instead of just
being subjected to the rancor, but that's just me. This isn't my NG. I
just post in it.
Here's my perspective. Most us can make observations of conditions. Most
us don't know the cause. Just observe stuff that may or may not have been
the cause of a condition.
Many websites are terribly informative. They may or may not address a
particular condition observed. And may be confused by the observer as the
actual source of the condition, and even misdiagnose the condition based on
such information. And may follow such advice to address correcting a
misdiagnosed condition. Singular afflictions are usually addressed by such
information, not multiple causes that may manifest themselves as something
slightly different or differently entirely.
Conclusion: If you want sound information, call an arborist to personally
observe your afflicted tree.
I have a pretty good understanding of trees. Shigo has offered a lot to
people who had a desire to learn about trees. What are you suggesting I do?
Forget about the teachings?
BTW people who would like to read some of Shigo's
3. Literature Available by Dr. Shigo is here:
4. Hard to get Documents
5. Tree Pruning
If you have any suggestions please let me know. 610-864-5251
Don Staples claims to be a tree expert yet he has little if any
understanding of tree biology. And that bothers him and I think he is
Forestry "Get the wood out" or; Management to get the wood out! My concern,
and question is, how can anyone manage something they do not understand?
Until forestry teaches the parts of the system, problems will increase, not
decrease. Thinking: How can they manage something, if they do not know what
the something is?
Forests are natural systems made up of trees and their associates connected
in such highly ordered ways that all parts have equal opportunities for
survival as energy is trapped. Would in not be wonderful if people really
knew what they were talking about! Especially if they discuss forest
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Beware of so-called TREE EXPERTS who do not understand TREE BIOLOGY!
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
I sent what you asked me to send; photo's of the donuts where I made
my cuts outside the branch collar. I showed a few which are almost
completely closed over. I didn't save the photo's, but I can take
them again. Some cuts are older than others and if I have time...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:35:31 -0400, "symplastless"
Sound advice Dave but I think most of us are here to do it on the cheap.
We can learn about plants. We can learn about parasites and diseases. We
can test our soils. We can grow too. Sometimes I think people are just
lonely and use their plants to reach out to others. Other times I think
that people may have figured out some gardening puzzle and when they
tell their friends, they just get a blank stare, whereas here, they may
get accolades. These NGs serve many functions.
Changed my post/reply name.
Sure, most people are willing to learn and share info. Can save your
veggies are what-not in the process. No big deal if not successful, try
again next year. A tree is a different story if you don't want to lose it.
I neither support or against any arborist recommended by the original
Profound is we're here due to a chance arrangement
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