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Sheesh, who made you sole arbiter of what peeps post... your responding to my post added nothing, whereas yours and you are the total waste... and obviously you haven't a clue what "digress" means or is your use germaine, you just inserted the tired overused word self-servingly in hopes of elevating yourself to a position of importance and superiority, not. I'm positive you don't have a garden either, never did, never will.... what an insignicant pinhead your momma bred.

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brooklyn1
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And it sounds like you're a pimple faced idiot with little real world experience. Either join in the conversation or STFU.

On second thought, you haven't written anything yet I consider worth reading, so, it's to the compost pile with you.

bubye

Steve

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SteveB

You found a picture of him online? Share it! :-)

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JoeSpareBedroom

Don't waste time and effort answering. There are a few flamers out there who insist on always having the last word, replying to everything but actually reading very little. Use news-reader filters. I do now, and my blood pressure has returned to normal (about 120/65).

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David E. Ross

Steve, IIRC you started this thread, so I'll address this to you.

"Mulching will get rid of most weeds, but Bermuda grass and its allies and bindweed will come up through any mulch, sooner or later, except for

6 overlapping layers of cardboard, covered well beyond the grass border by heavy black plastic, maintained for at least a year."

-- Organic method primer update: A practical explanation : the how and why for the beginner and the experience (Conservation gardening and farming) (Hardcover) by Bargyla Rateaver (Author)

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Organic Method Primer UPDATE Copyright® B.

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Billy

Along with Johnson grass, Bermuda grass is usually the first to reclaim soil saturated with crude oil. At least that's what I've seen in some of the old, used up oil fields.

Reply to
Dioclese

Again, the original subject was Bermuda grass. Not your generic "weed". If you don't get the vast majority of the roots out of the soil, you might as well thrown handfuls of Bermuda grass seed.

The major thing I disagree with the prior post is you have to actually use your hands to aid getting these roots out of the soil. One needs to use a spading fork or shovel to bring up a big chunk of soil. Then, allow it to dry. Then, break each chunk down to free all the subsurface plant material. Then, you can use power tools.

Again, the subject "weed" is Bermuda grass. It grows right through organic stackage, wet newspaper, and around solid objects beneath the surface. The OP did not mention clay soil that I've seen so far, so I don't see the applicability here. Bermuda grass seeds and germinates that season. Any remnants are not of any consequence. Timing is what's important, early spring.

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Dioclese

Now, now. Ya'll settle down. I should have not acted as newsgroup policeman. Rather, I should have allowed Brooklyn1 to see what I'm talking about on his/her own. In retrospect, it was not polite. It may have been embarassing to him/her to expose that folly. I would expect so by my observation his/her subsequent reply's substance. I should have left well enough alone. My apologies to him/her.

I'm a "him" if you choose to address me by the way.

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Dioclese

It used to drive sheldon/brooklyn wild when you would post pictures to alt.binaries.pictures.gardens and then reference that here. He couldn't get the group and would raise hell about posting them on tinypics or sumpin.

Charlie

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Charlie

On a similar subject, does anyone know how to make Bermuda grass GROW? We've tried planting it in our front and back yards several times now (having given up hope with less-aggressive grasses), and we STILL can't get it to grow. We water it, and it grows okay, and then the sun shines and kills it all, until there's nothing left but bare ground (not even tufts of dead grass). People here are talking about how it is impossible to get Bermuda grass to stop growing, but I wonder how much of a start it needs to get to the point where it is impervious to everything!

--S.

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Suzanne D.

I've got a serious bindweed problem myself, but after a few years of cardboard, the shoots that make it through are much smaller and more easily removed. I think the cardboard just stresses it out after a while. Either that or, since the ground is covered, the bindweed is no longer needed to protect it.

One thing I noticed, though, when I had thick tangles of bindweed in between my raised wooden beds in my first year of gardening, is that they were FULL of spiders. I'd step into a patch and a dozen spiders would start crawling up my leg. And I had NO bug problems that year. So maybe it's worth having around for some reasons!

--S.

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Suzanne D.

I've always started it from sod rather than seed, I prefer the hybrid varieties. It seems to like a lot of water, at least until it gets its roots down deep, then mine can go all summer without watering.

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Charles

I know you're in a different climate so perhaps it's not an issue, but I would never sow Bermuda grass if I intended to garden. Here in TN, once it gets going, it's never going to get gone.

Kate - been pulling some Bermuda grass today

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kate

On Sun, 24 May 2009 16:25:53 -0600, against all advice, something compelled "Suzanne D." , to say:

Apparently, it does best under three feet of Roundup treated concrete.

Reply to
Steve Daniels

Yeah, bindweed and Bermuda grass have chlorophyll and need sun light to survive. If you live where it gets hot in the summer, black plastic blocks out the sun as well as holds in the heat.

". . . since the ground is covered, the bindweed is no longer needed to protect it."

Huh?

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Billy

I've been pulling weeds in my front yard which used to be a "lawn" but is now a corn field. I've been only removing weeds and leaving the odd tufts of grass to grow, but maybe if I start pulling the grass too and trying to get rid of it, it will take over the whole yard.

But then, I'd be stuck with a lawn instead of a corn field, so...

--S.

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Suzanne D.

Bindweed and other weeds grow when the earth is exposed. It's nature's way of keeping the earth covered and protected. Before I started using cover crops to cover the bare earth, the bindweed took that job.

--S.

Reply to
Suzanne D.

Cover it with cardboard, asphalt or concrete. :-)

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom

Something to do when you're not spending hours and days desperately searching for someone to agree with you on the internet.

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Reply to
Dioclese

This response of yours is really lame.

Charlie

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Charlie

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