Disaster or Nightmare, Whatever.

Amen on the lawn care hatred.....that isn't gardening.

I hate lawn care too, waste of fuel, bad juju for the environment, etc.

What is G.A.?

salt definitely kills weeds,,,,,what about a wider application. This may sound smarty, it's not, but just keep pulling and salting them. It is a meditational thing, does help one relax and ease stress.

Concrete is expensive.......really expensive if you can't get a truck close. Plus it is really ugly....I know. It has all the beauty and warmth of ........ahhh, never mind,,,,,it's ugly.

Think zen garden.

And ignore the chemical-heads, they want to poison all of us.

"They paved paradise, and put up a parking lot"

Charlie

And let me disagree. Salt is a poison, just not a very effective one. Garden shops sell stuff like soil sterilants, with chlorates and borates. A problem with these, and salt as well, is that they don't stay where we put them, they go off to poison the water table.

I'd look into some of the soap based products, Safer is a good brand, in my opinion.

That was the only line from that song I actually liked. Even if it didn't seem to make sense with the rest of the song. I've seen beautiful land turned into a strip mall before, and I found it disgusting. Fred Meyer's sucks anyways.

Hmmmmm....let's see...I assumed the area had a high saline content .....like Bonneville...yeah that's it! (somebody help me out here!)

Fine.

Must of been that delicious bacon that the Lovely just fixed.....I

Thanks Charles Charles, er, Charlie

You're one of the good ones, Lilah.

sweet dreams, my dear.

I'm off to bed for my Sleeping Beauty awaits me.

Care Charlie

What's a Fred Meyer's?

G.A. is the crushed stones, they call it gravels, if I spell it correctly.

I know people here are laughing at what I have done so far. Please if someone can give some good advice. I am desperately looking for some good hints.

Do I have to remove all the pebble and G.A. out of the yard? And put back soil and sod? That could be an impossible task so far. -- Is there any other solutions?

What is a "zen" garden in your mind? Is that going to be good? I will have to need some ideas.

Right

In my opinion, it is very good.

In my opinion too.

Look for"A Japanese touch for your garden".

ISBN 0-87011-391-7

If you got money or know how to make things and perhaps like simple things like driftwood.

Look for " A Japanese touch for your home".

ISBD 4-7700-1015-X

Then there is "The art of Setting Stones".

ISBD 1-880656-70-1

"Essays for the philosophical gardener (Or the gardening philosopher ) that revel the beauty and meaning of traditional Japanese gardens." From the back cover but I'd rather weed now and propagate. Still in winter the garden thru books calls even with snow and deciduous hollies in glory. Heart stuff nags me.

And then there is my first hook into "Japanese Gardens" From the Time Life Encylopedia of Gardening

ISBD 0-8094-2631-5

Bill

I think what bro' Charlie be having in mind is sort of something like this

- Billy Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

Perhaps the most sane thing would be a torch attached to a grill sized bottle of to flame the weed seedlings periodically. Seeds will come in on the wind and in the birds and soil sterrilants are less than eco friendly. You could get yourself a nice sized scrap of black rubber roofing/ pond liner and move it over areas you want dead during the heat of the day.

Forget a Japanese garden as they require meticulous care and maintainance to not look foolish and that doesn't sound like it fits your lifestyle .

I suggest using vinegar on your weeds. You can read about ti here:

Good luck, Jay

It's a department(chain) that likes to pave over beautiful fertile land and put up one of its ugly stores.

Oh - like Walmart

Yeah, 'cept Fred Meyer's is more expensive.

Or a school, or a hospital, or............

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They took all the trees and put 'em in a tree museum, and charge the people a dollar and a half just to see 'em.

Farmer, farmer, put away your DDT. Don't mind spots on my apples, leave me the birds and the bees. Please!

Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.