I'm no gardener but have had the unfortunate task of tending my
father's grave. I planted some daff bulbs last autumn and had a
beautiful display but the flowers are now dying off. I shall soon be
re-planting with summer plants. Should I save the daff bulbs for next
year, or shoud they be discarded and buy new ones again in the autumn?
Daffodills are quite hardy. They will survive most winters, even with
snow and freezing weather. Just plant summer annuals over them without
digging them up.
The one problem you might have is if the cemetary maintenance crew mows
over your father's grave. Cutting the daffodill foliage before it turns
yellow and dies will weaken the bulbs. If this happens, you might as
well dig up the bulbs and trash them.
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Probably you are confused. It is necessary for the plants to remain in a
normal growing state with roots and foliage intact so that they can support
bulb growth which is what makes the new plants and flowers the next Spring.
As soon as the plant has finished this process the foliage dies back and
all that remains is the bulb (or bulbs) under the ground. Typically one can
plant annuals around the remaining daffodil foliage to make it less obvious
but even if the bulb is to be dug and re-planted in the Autumn it is
necessary for the plant to go through its "recharging" routine to produce
healthy bulbs. I normally clip the spent flower stem right after the flower
fades to make the plants look less ragged but I would never remove any
No, that would be you. =) They will do fine, and even thrive, when done as
Pete C questioned. We dug up thousands last spring, after they finished
blooming. Laid them all out under an overhang to finish yellowing/drying,
cut the foilage off, and stored them in bulb crates under a bench at work.
I brought home several hundred last fall, and /every one/ of them is still
in full bloom (3 weeks now). The rest, re-planted at work, are also
The roots, at that time, are playing a very minor role. The food is all
being sent back down to the bulb for storage. It's being made in the
leaves, not the roots.
And, they wouldn't be removed if dug up, intact. They'll still produce
food, and you don't have the ragged, yellowed foilage in the bed.
Yup, you can plant around them. You can also dig them up, just fine.
Most books now say our sun is a star. But it still knows how to change back
Perhaps in England (where the original poster apparently lives), roots
might not be important in allowing nutrients to migrate into the bulb.
In my climate, the relative humidity tends to be much lower (21% at
noon). Without roots supplying moisture, the leaves would prematurely
wilt and shrivel before they could complete their task. Also, leaving
the bulbs in the ground through the summer keeps them cool; summer
temperatures here often exceed 90F and even 100F.
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Guess we'll just have to disagree. It is amazing that you would claim that
the plant's roots are "minor" given that this is the only way they absorb
water and nutrients. Sure, photosynthesis is happening in the leaves but
without water and soil nutrients nothing useful is going to be happening
since it doesn't operate on atmospheric C02 alone. I will remain with the
position that for best results the plants should stay exactly where they
are until the foliage dies back. It is a minor drawback since daffodils
don't hold onto their foliage all that long and can be easily screened from
Granted, the plants are amazingly tough and might well survive the
treatment you describe but if it was the way to produce best-quality bulbs
I'd expect the big growers to be doing it that way to save time. The Dutch
growers would be able to put their new crop in the warehouses in April and
spend the rest of the year sunning themselves in Majorca.
No problem. I leave my bulbs at home in the ground, year round, cutting
yellowing foilage as it appears. A bit time-consuming (there are seveal
thousand bulbs), but the beds stay looking fairly fresh. My point was, it
*is* fine to dig the bulbs up, lay them in a cool place to finish, and then
remove the foilage. Planted that fall, they'll produce fine the following
When bulb foilage begins to yellow, the roots are /not/ taking in water. If
they're not taking in water, they're also *not* taking up nutrients. When
the bulb finishes flowering, the roots are done, and begin to die off, same
as the foilage. All food production is taking place above ground, and that
food is being sent to the bulb for dormancy survival, and the following
Again, there's nothing wrong with that method. Pete C's question was of
digging them up (fine), storing them "in a paper bag in the dark until tops
die off" (BAD idea). Lose the paper bag, and it will work, with no
Having never visited a "big grower", much less one in Holland, I can't
comment on their production methods. Were you to ask one of them about the
inner-workings of a bulb, and just what happens during it's life-cycle, I
bet they'd tell you the same thing I stated above. ;)
Guess you guys know daffodils are toxic, Some bulbs mixed with young
onions would not be easy to discern not good. Sort of a text for
murder she wrote.
Standard Major Disclaimer.
So Charlie and Billy when shall we party?
Oh yeah......a garden party? Who brings the wine, who brings the
botanicals, who brings what????
"People came from miles around, everyone was there
Yoko brought her walrus, there was magic in the air
'n' over in the corner, much to my surprise
Mr. Hughes hid in Dylan's shoes wearing his disguise"
"But it's all right now, I learned my lesson well.
You see, ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself"
Nah more like Rickey and David as human .
The past video seems to have a sort of power over words , Shame the
content could not keep up unless we had access to amend . Hope this is
Libraries , Libraries and examples of folks making sense.
Strange thing about getting old. You're tired more often and you sleep
less. Personally, I'm waiting for the malabsorbtion syndrome to kick in
so that I can lose some weight, and recapture my boyish figure that is
buried in here somewhere. Wait a minute, I don't have to worry about
that anymore. Shrub has my weight loss worries covered. With any bad
luck at all, I should be forty pounds lighter next year at this time, if
I make it through the winter.
Wonder if any of that "shine" they are making for gasoline is ever goin'
to make it to the "market" that will really appreciate it;-)
The body runs on acetate and it is only a tiny, teeny jump from ethanol
to acetate. Beside, it's non-fattening and I got me five milk thistle
plants to cover my liver;-) (again)
Yeah, yeah. Look out Bill, another one is zoning out . . . zzz
You guys never had the pleasure of cranking up your BG with tastykakes?
I used to walk trough the woods about a mile for my school bus and
would eat my tasty cake on the way and discard the rest. I'd also have
my Fox 12 gauge with me incase a crow came by. This was a time when
dynamite was used against crow roosts. Things have changed haven't they.
Bill who feeds the birds and calls crows.
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