Has any one had success doing this? I've tried on several occasions with
very little compost and lots of leaves looking like they just fell yesterday
after a year's time. I've tried adding water after filling the bag and
bagging wet leaves. I use partially shredded leaves from my mower.
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:51:10 -0400, Cheryl Isaak wrote:
Air is a very important part of compost production. To make compost you
equal part green, brown air annd water. When you bag the compost you make
it very hard for the air to reach the leaves. The water that you added
will be enough for a while but the bacteria will comsume it over time. If
you were able to get compost working in the bags, the heat from the
cooking compost maybe too much for the bags to take.
Why do you feel the need to make compost in bags? There are really nice
compost bins on the market that are rather cheap.
Trees are like children, train them right when their young.....
or spend a lifetime trying to correct them.
Composting in bag will result in an anerobic process, which will
tend to be smelly.
Try mixing in a sprinkle of dirt to innoculate the leaves with
the necessary bacteria. Mix in some lawn clippings to help it
along. Better yet, do it in a bin so air can get at it.
On 10/28/04 1:51 PM, in article Wkagd.326576$3l3.73916@attbi_s03, "Bob"
I've only tried doing this as I tend to
A. Fill up my bins quickly
B. Can't resist when I see all those leaves already bagged and waiting on
C. I keep reading, in magazines, online, etc, how easy it is to bag it and
let in rot. I think I've even seen the method in the book "Let it Rot".
I guess I really need to find a new spot for another bin/heap, but it's
getting harder, I've got 1 large bin, an "Earth Machine", a tumbler (waste
of money for me) and 2 heaps.
If they are already in a plastic bag, that's one thing, but I wonder if
using paper bags for overflow (when your regular bin is full) is a good
idea or a disaster waiting to happen.
I guess the bags would last long enough (moderate/dry climate) even if
you poke a couple of holes in them that you could heave them in the
regular pile without needing to buy new shoes once the old stuff has
rotted enough for there to be room. But that's just speculation.
On 10/29/04 5:15 AM, in article %Sngd.5400$jD4.3593@trnddc06, "Salty Thumb"
I've had about the same success with paper bags - not much decomposition
after a year. I did find a paper bag I had heaved in the brush after 3 years
- it still hadn't rotted down to lovely compost, but it wasn't dry leaves.
I begin to wonder how much of my trouble with composting is a lack of the
"proper" weather - more summer heat, longer spring and fall, milder winter.
You'll get better results with a compost pile on the ground. Confined
to a container, there may not be the beneficial microorganisms that
break down leaves.
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:51:10 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
The cooler and drier the climate, the slower the composting process. The
little bacteria whose job it is to break down decaying matter do their work
best in a lot of heat, humidity, moisture, and air. It's possible that the
cold winters and relatively cool summers of New Hampshire are not quite
enough to help these little guys get the job done in quick time.In my cool
western dry climate, certain kinds of leaves could last almost indefinitely,
turning to dust long before they turned to compost. However, leaves can be
dug into moist earth here and will eventually decay.
Ye Olde Rotted Oak Leafe:
Find a stand of oak trees under which a thick layer of last years' leaves
have fallen. I like to simply suck up several trash bags full using a
lawnmower with bag attached. (Have a snappy comeback for passersby
inquiring, "Why are you mowing the forest?") Depending upon the mower, you
may have to dump the bag and suck them up again to get the leaf particles
suitably shredded. Dump the now shredded oak leaves into black plastic
garbage bags. If the leaves are dry, spray water into the bag until they're
moderately damp. Tie off the bag, and poke several tens of holes into it (I
just use my car key or chopstick). Place the bags where they will receive
all day sunlight. Every once in awhile, give the bags a good swift kick!
In six to ten weeks, you will have lovely dark rotted oak leaf.
I have had good luck using the bagged leaves to insulate the roses then in spring
running water into the now very holey bags and laying them in the sun. by fall
leaves are pretty well mulched. Ingrid
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endorsements or recommendations I make.
That assumes I'd attempt to grow roses here! LOL - if it needs winter
pampering I don't do it!
But, the rest of the trick is worth a try!
On 10/30/04 10:07 AM, in article firstname.lastname@example.org,
Last fall my neighbor had 15 bags (if I remember right) sitting in her
yard waiting for someone to take them to the curb for pickup. She does
not use weed killers or other chemical on her lawn, just well water. I
ask for them; we were both happy. I took them behind the storage shed,
poured a bit of nitrogen fertilizer, a bit of garden soil and some
manure, poked holes in the bags. last month i emptied most of them on
the lawn and those that did not break completely down, we ran over
with the mower and they nearly all simply settled down into the lawn.
The ones that broke down well, I spread as mulch on garden areas. One
of them was the last baging of lawn clippings and autumn leaves last
fall from our lawn and it broke down to really good compost which went
on a special garden area. It seems to work pretty well! Our lawn,
which for past 20 years has been grossly neglected does look a lot
better. This is our second full fall season here. I am old and unable
to turn a compost heap so this is a workable solution for me.
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