Our 150# black Newfoundland, Natasha (RIP) could smell bone meal a mile
away and dug quite a few pits as a youngster. Fortunately she outgrew
the habit after she was around two years old. I used to have to hose
her off with the garden hose--- what a mess LOL.
Interesting. But I wonder if it's still a problem? I guess that
incident was around 7 years ago? I picked up a package of bone meal for
my mom recently and it said some fancy smancy stuff about a "special
steam purification process", so I wonder if that got rid of whatever
attracts animals, and if something similar could be done with home-made
bone meal etc.
P.S. I remember some people mentioning trench composting bones without
Being the paranoid person that I am, I wouldn't use bone
meal in the garden because of BSE (mad cow disease). One
case of it was recently reported in Canada.
I just wouldn't want to be spreading bone meal around my
place, and certainly not in the garden with the edibles.
There are several thousand head of beef cows out on islands in the Aleutians
(in Alaska) that we are trying to get the state to declare off-limits for now.
They are quarentined herds, just because of location. The original animals
were put on the islands by Russian fur traders in the early 1800's. If we
ever needed clean (disease-free) stock to rebuild herds should the
unthinkable happen (like the FMD massacre in Britian), those herds would
be a source of clean stock, not to mention hardy genetics.
The commercial food supply sure is scary these days!
What's your experience with heirlooms? Are they disease and pest resistant?
I'd just love to grow heirloom 'maters, but getting any 'maters at all to grow
at 59 degrees north latitude isn't easy. There are some old varieties from
Russia, Czechoslovakia, etc. that are supposed to do well in cold climates.
I want to start doing trials with them. (My SO just built me a little
Late is better than never. There's always next year. *g*)
Stockgrowers who feed meat to herbivores should be run out of business.
We feed our cows green grass in the summer and hay in the winter. And
we feed our dogs fish and meat, not kibble that's mostly corn.
Well, Jan like I said, this is the first year We've planted heirlooms. So
far so good, we've been harvesting for a couple of weeks. Seriously, we have
30 plants, sometimes we use a wheelbarrow to bring them to the house. It may
just be selective memory, but I can't remember tomatoes tasting quite as
good, really they remind you that tomatoes are a fruit.
Now here is the dilema, the ones we grow here, S.E. Va. will not work for
you. They are beefsteak varieties. I tried that when I lived in upstate NY,
if you like fried green tomatoes or green tomato pickles, they will work.
You might try a google search for heirloom tomato, and then look for short
season detirmenant. I bet you will find something you can use, especially
with that greenhouse. It looks like you have already got some good ideas.
We decided to use heirlooms specifcally because of the resistant factor.
Last year, we picked our tomato sets from the local feed and seed, us and
everybody else, had a really bad year. So we decided to change step. I am
begining to believe that we are being decieved by the lables, by seed
companies, as far as resistance is concerned.
Now, cattle are herbivores dogs, like us are omnivores, leaning toward
carnivores. Our dogs love trips to the garden, which is why I had to fence
it, years ago. Len
It's *that* good?? I'll have to try it next year, in the greenhouse : )
(We're going to build a free-standing greenhouse, between the Cowboy
Cabin and the tack shed, when we get time. It'll have power and be
right alongside the water line that runs up to the horse pasture. Our
hard winter winds come out of the northeast, and that site has 20' tall
alders on the north side and the cabin on the east. By "hard," I mean
80-100mph winds. Our house is timber-framed, with a prow point
into the prevailing winds and when the house shakes, it's blowing
100 mph. I live right around the corner from the Gulf of Alaska.
Our normal winter weather would give most people the vapors.)
What heirloom stuff are you growing this year?
Your dogs are characters then, too. It used to crack me up to watch Toughie
carefully pick the berries off the plants with her teeth. She didn't want
to spit a bunch of leaves out. Black bears just strip the whole branch and eat
the leaves, too. Which is why Tough always went berry picking with me -- she
was one heck of a bear dog. She'd let me know if there was a bear within a 1/4
mile. (A major food source for bears in Alaska is berries, so most berry pickers
bring someone along with a rifle or shotgun, to guard the pickers from bears.
When you get busy picking, it's easy to forget to watch for bears.)
I buried Toughie up in the pasture next to the house last July. I'm going to
have to borrow a dog to go berry picking this year. _But_ I got to babysit a
most excellent dog this summer, while her dad went commercial fishing in
Bristol Bay for sockeye salmon. I think Sandy would be a fine bear dog. She's
a big buckskin-colored Boxer who kept the dang moose out of my garden all
summer. Sandy's dad just got home, so I have to fence the garden now.
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 00:52:07 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (Jan
I'm the dissenting voice, I guess.
We grew Brandywines last year. They were wildly
unproductive - I believe I had three ripe tomatoes from four
plants! (Our climate's not ideal for tomatoes.)
I didn't think they tasted better than most other home-grown
tomatoes. Maybe ours weren't representative.
In this fairly short-season, cool summer climate I will
never try them again.
We're building a hoophouse (unheated) and I'll grow tomatoes
in it next year, also peppers and eggplants. But I
certainly won't try Brandywines in the hoophouse: space
will be at a premium and they're just too unproductive for
me. Even when they do ripen, I have read that they're not
nearly as productive as some other varieties.
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 13:06:06 -0800, email@example.com (Jan
I've read this also. I don't know how to find the 'good'
I have just joined the Seed Saver's Exchange - I'm sure lots
of Brandywines will be listed on their exchange list.
firstname.lastname@example.org (Seamus Ma' Cleriec) wrote:
Hey, are there any families named "Flora" still in Lancaster Co? My family
lived there for awhile after they came from Germany in 1733. They are
Church of the Brethern and Mennonites.
My gardening, stock growing and horse owning tendencies are genetic : )
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