and Piss Poor Performance . I don't understand it , the same seed , soil
, and growing conditions and the plastic cells far outdo the little
strips of 8 peat pots . I like the concept , just slit it and bury it
without disturbing the roots too much . But the whole thing doesn't work
unless the seedlings actually grow . I planted 4 kinds of peppers in
these , multiple seeds per cell because I know they're old and the germ
rate is likely low - did the same with some other peppers and the
tomatoes in the plastic cells . The peat pots had exactly 2 seeds
germinate of probably 64 or more seeds . The plastic were over-run , and
in fact all the seedlings now in peat were germinated in plastic . Even
allowing for the stress of being moved , they just ain't gettin' it .
They have nice color , look good , just aren't growing as fast . I'm
wondering if I need some supplemental N or something - maybe a light
shot of Miracle Grow , since it's high in N at 24/8/16 . I just don't
know what to do at this point , but I'd like to save these seedlings .
They're extras to me , but I planned to give them to a neighbor (the one
with the rabbits) . He works for a living and doesn't have the time I do
to devote to this stuff .
almost all seed starting materials should be pretty
low in actual nutrients (to avoid fungal/rot issues)
thus for those plants with smaller seeds you will need
to supplement nutrients earlier to keep them going
until they are planted out.
other than not having the space for doing starts i
also figured out the costs involved and am happy with
the local greenhouse doing them for us.
I've never got satisfactory performance from peat or moss pots.and
remove them completely from purchased plants. Been a long time since I
bought-in plants, though. My favorite nursery containers are
inexpensive ±2" terra cotta pots. The pots decay very slowly, if kept
wet, but last for years with seasonal use and may easily be sterilized.
Second fave is store-brand uncoated paper cups from the supermarket.
The paper cups compost fairly quickly, if kept wet, but mine go into the
regular compost place and not directly into the garden.
On 03/15/2018 08:10 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Same here. When I turn over my ground pots every spring, the peat
pot is still in tact.
Sometimes the root grow out the bottom of the peat pots, so I
delicately try to rip the bottoms out before planting and I
"seem" to get good results. The rest of the pot stays in tact.
There are some pots out there made up of Cow Skat and those
I have never had an issue with. I believe Bonnie uses them.
Cow poop! Now 1001 uses for it!
My husband has set up an aquaponics systems in our spare room, and he's
growing all sorts of veggies with it. He is going to move most of the
outside and grow the veggies in a bucket with water! Some of his plants
he decided to grow in pots, though. He uses those peat pots with some
potting perlite/vermiculite to grow some miniature tomato plants inside,
and he also has onions, cilantro, and a couple other herbs he is growing
in water, too. One thing he is growing that is doing great is celery!
He can grow that indoors all year round if he wants to.
Some of those mini tomatoes are already blooming and they don't get
taller than 12-18 inches, so he never had to even plant them in dirt or
put them outside in buckets with water. It's mostly an experiment, but
it's turning out fairly well, so far.
Our raised bed garden outside is in need of repairs, so I had to
completely disassemble one 4'x 8' raised bed, remove all the screws and
nails and stack the wood. Then I shoved out all of the dirt and put it
into 2 other nearby beds so we can rebuild the broken beds. We've got
part of the old bed next to it shored up and we're going to marry the
new beds to the remaining old beds. We both ran out of gas yesterday
right about the time we got our first spring rainfall. Today, it turned
cold again, so we won't get back out there again until it warms up a
little bit more.
I've got about a third of the garden left to amend and till . I have
time though , I won't be setting anything out for around a month .
Strawberries are doing OK , all but 2 (of 29) are showing new growth . I
must be doing something right , we had some very heavy rain last night
and there was no erosion out in the garden . Apparently all that
decomposing straw I've been tilling in has helped ...
We've had daffodils blooming for a couple of weeks now , we have a
variety of white/yellow/orange blossoms . The tulips I planted came up
the next spring , bloomed , and disappeared . Never did figger it out
for sure but I suspect rodents ate 'em .
On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 9:06:26 AM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
I was having the same trouble my last season of growing starts & asked an o
ldtimer at the garden shop about it. He told me there is something in the p
eat that inhibits pepper germination. I restarted with my own compost and g
arden soil with seeds from the same batch. This time I had nearly 100% germ
I would never use peat in a seed starting mix again.
On 3/30/2018 7:17 AM, email@example.com wrote:
And I won't either ... I'm awaiting delivery (at our local co-op) of
some Anaheim seedlings , I have wanted to grow these for several years
with lousy results - last year I finally got some to germinate , but
they did poorly in the garden . This year I got soil tests and am
amending the soil as needed . So far the results have been good , what I
have planted so far is all doing well .
Count me among those old timers who find peat not to be a suitable
soil additive. I start seeds in unwaxed paper cups or, increasingly, in
2" terra cotta pots. The soil come directly from the garden beds. The
soil mix in the various containers is very nearly the same as in the
beds. Only a few of the container plants get something akin to miracle
gro and those plants are not for eating.
On 3/30/2018 1:38 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I do use potting soil , it's more convenient plus until recently the
garden soil has been lacking . Might still be , but I'm taking steps to
improve it . Just today I planted 180 cells in (foam) egg cartons with
assorted flowers . I'm hoping to establish self-renewing/perennial
patches of flowers that will have flowers all summer for the bees . From
about mid-June on there's actually very little for them to forage on here .
I'm a fan of bee-balm, in various colors (red will also make happy
hummingbirds, but the bees will get theirs as well) among others. And
don't overlook clover and alfalfa (but if your soil tends to acid,
alfalfa can be difficult, or at least require a lot of lime to be happy.)
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away.
Our soil here is acid , had to lime the north end of the garden this
year . Bee Balm is one of the flowers I've planted , also penstemon , 2
kinds of poppies , liatris , lavender , alyssum , and borage . Marigolds
too , but I don't think the bees are attracted to them . *I* think
they're pretty . I did a lot of research to find plants that have both
extended bloom times and that attract bees and hummers - and that will
grow in this area . I've sown all of these outdoors with no discernible
effect - either they didn't come up , something ate the seeds , or ate
the tender new shoots .
I have a barrel I grow cherry tomatoes in. Every year a
weed decides it is a nice place to grow and it is. Not
an issue because the solid is really loose easy to pull
weeds out of.
Well this years foolish weed, when I pulled him out, up
comes the weed and an intact peat pot.
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