Here ya' go William, you were right about the artist.
Damn, brother....ya really locked my head up for a bit. I had to make a mission of it! :-)
Charlie
So feed lots only.
Personally, I prefer range fed beef to silage fed!
You folks are great as my head has been locked up about this on an off for a long time.
Those obscure tidbits reduced by one ! Now I can track it down.
Thanks!
Bill
Billy Rose expounded:
Because they interpret in a way I find entertaining. I do not take my cues from artists and actors. People who live in a quasi-fairyland aren't the same people I want feeding me information. I like them enough in their element, but that's about it.
Billy Rose expounded:
Twern't I, Billy. I did look it up on Amazon, I've never read it, and don't want to get into that particular bit - what the US gets into has nothing to do with my views on entertainers. It does seem as though the entertainers will determine their own causes, though, and ballyhoo them about like they're preaching the gosphel. I don't listen to anyone's gosphel.
I don't get it, Billy. If it isn't interesting, then it's not entertaining. It would be nice if education was always entertaining, but it isn't. Sometimes it's hard work to learn. That's the beauty of it. I don't need things interpreted for me, I'll learn about them on my own - then calm my mind with entertainment. See the difference?
He's uncultured, uneducated, and ignorant, but far from "thick", he's plenty shrewd.
He gets to play president with a host of expensive perks, while his puppet-masters run the country for the benefit of Big (unethical) Corporations.
He is uninterested that he has blood on his hands of our soldiers and their innocent civilians. Remember, this is the sorry excuse for a human being who -- when a woman about to be executed in Texas* begged for her life -- he mimicked her in a high-pitched woman's voice "Oh, please don't kill me!"
For that alone, he should go to hell,provided there is such a place.
And George Bush, despite his Bible-thumping, is no Christian. Christians are not supposed to lie, steal, cheat and kill. He has done all of the above, whether directly or by proxy.
This is just another ex-drunk who found Jesus. Plenty of them around, but they don't have the power to invade another country on the basis of lies, wreck that country, unleash a civil-religious war, then blame
*them* for not becoming a model democracy -- while his reckless, uninformed and incompetent campaign fosters terrorism and kills and maims our soldiers and their civilians.As to his public utterances, he reads what they write for him**. Check out Jon Stewart some time, when they assemble clips of speeches he makes all using the same "talking points" devised by a very expensive team of PR consultants. Grouped together, they are sinisterly laughable. But Joe/Jane Beercan Voter, dead from the neck up, can still be impressed and/or frightened, by these carefully devised sound bites.
*You probably have the obscene stats on Texas executions. Do you have the stats on how long Bush took to "review" each death sentence?** Check out the difference when he doesn't have a teleprompter with remarks prepared by his staff, but must answer questions cold.
Persephone (who remembers another America)
I don't know, Bill. I am not 100% certain we'll see elections next year.
Charlie
Charlie expounded:
Oh, come on, Charlie, why wouldn't we?
Billy Rose expounded:
No, I'm not. I am definitely much more conservative minded than you. Note I didn't say that I am totally conservative, I think you can see by our other discussions that I'm not. Broad brushes and all.
I never once said there were no nice 'Moslems' (whatever they are, I know only the word 'Muslims'), nor that all actors are idiots. Putting words into my mouth to make me look bad? I expected better from you.
I am now done discussing anything political or worldly with you. Let's just stick to gardening.
Yeah, shrewd enough to know to whom he is beholden and scared enough not to go against them. He owes lots of debts, political and private.
After first suffering perhaps a little........extreme rendition?
Hey, you're preaching to the choir here.
He is simply the public face of the amoral rot that has set in in DC. I say amoral, though I am beginning to believe that amorality has largely been replaced by evil.
I too remember another America, though our beginnings are not as pure as we would like to imagine them. This America that has replaced that which we knew is on the wane, and therefore very dangerous, both to the world and to those of us who are "citizens". You see how we are being viiewed and treated.
I'm fast losing hope, though I must continue to spit and spat.
Care Charlie
I fear that those in power are seeing Control Of and Belief in the Oft Repeated Lie, slip away from them. I believe they are capable of great evil. Great evil has been done already in the last few years, and even so, their vision has not been realized. I am not saying I necessarily expect this, I am saying that an extreme event, which caused the suspension of elections, would not shock me. I believe that "they" will do *anything* to hold on to power and their idealogical dreams.
I am not hopeful even *with* elections.
Care Charlie
Indeed it can. Misunderstandings are quite common. One wouldn't think so, but it is truth.
Charlie
I thought you were in bed.
Yer gonna get yerself in trouble again, Bucketmouth.
BTW......interesting day. Talked to one of "my boys", home on leave from Afghanistan and had a long interesting chat with "my sweet corn guy", an old effer who served in Viet Nam. They ain't real happy.
Charlie
do you need to ask :-))
probably not, though I am not an expert on this matter, it is likely to be a feed supplement to maintain peak production. That said, there will be occasions such as droughts, floods & snow dumps when grass is in short supply and grains may fill the gap. Kiwi farmers are good at making hay, sileage, using green fodder crops etc for the leaner months.
rob
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I'd use hay in preference to grains. Too much chance for bloat imho. I lost a goat to that once, and she was regularly provided with a "bloat block" salt lick.
I probably could have saved her if I'd gotten home in time, but she was dead when I got there. ;-(
Avoid Alfalfa hay tho'.
Killing Hope
U.S. Military and CIA intervention Since World War II
By William Blum
ISBN 1-56751-052-3 " "Far and away the best book on the topic." --Noam Chomsky
Bill
It's worked well for many throughout history, eh?
Not so well for the vast majority, though.
Charlie
You do Molly proud, BIlly. Indeed ya' do!
FB - Fart For Feedom Charlie
Yes I like company.
I'm reminded of a 18 th century quote from some guy in England. I'm not sure but think it was Walpole? I came across it while studying Billie Blake.
"You can only have foreign intervention abroad when there is tyranny at home."
Crazy Bill
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