It's not just me, or crazy USians.. Seems some folks in New Zealand
think the same. Keep expanding those gardens.
Full article at:
The era of cheap food is over. The price of maize has doubled in a
year, and wheat futures are at their highest in a decade. The food
price index in India has risen 11 per cent in one year, and in Mexico
in January there were riots after the price of corn flour - used in
making the staple food of the poor, tortillas - went up fourfold.
Even in the developed countries food prices are going up, and they are
not going to come down again. Cheap food lasted for only 50 years.
funny.............the market price of corn has gone down, but the local
price of soybeans has sky-rocketed to 9.06 a bushel. Local farmers have
been hauling beans like crazy the last couple of days.
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:48:15 -0500, Charlie wrote:
Whoa, podner...the price of corn/maize has zoomed because of the
misbegotten "plan" to grow corn for biofuel. Totally ridiculous,
when an ancient plant like hemp that can grow on the worst ground and
reseeds itself, would do the same only much cheaper.
Hemp has been used since antiquity for everything from sails to
clothing to oil to...endless socially important applications.
The US is the only Puritanical country that bows to the hysteria of
the uninformed about hemp's cousin, marijuana. Just try getting high
on hemp; you'll collapse from exhaustion first.
Of course the result has been to send corn prices sky high in
places like Mexico, where it is the staple food in the form
But the U.S. corn-producing states, their lobbiespaying off Congress
big-time, are laughing all the way to the bank.
<Persephone> wrote in message> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:48:15 -0500, Charlie wrote:
dumb, plain dumb! Is your president thick? This issues suggests so. FFS, it
boggles the imagination. Bush wants to wean the US off foreign oil so he
instead starts refining biofuels from corn. Nowt wrong with bio-fuels, using
good food crop to do it is dumb. In his actions he sets off a mini commodity
boom. Maybe concentrate on energy efficiency and lower reliance on overseas
oil that way?
Interestingly here in NZ, where we get Dyers column syndicated in my local
newspaper, our dairy famers are experience a boom in prices. Several factors
to that, one I understand is the increased price of corn & wheat that is
being diverted to make fuel. Our milk production costs are not necessarily
rising as a result, much of the production is pastoral with cows 365 grazing
paddocks. Our farmers are certainly benefitting from the high prices mind.
Pork & chicken farmers & beer brewers are a little pissed though as prices
of wheat go up. We grow a % of our own needs & import some from Australia.
With wheat been sucked up for bio-fuels the price goes up & so does demand.
It is also likely more farms will be converted to dairy, given the high milk
prices, & some of the existing wheat production will be siphoned off for
supplementary feed for cows.
probably not, though I am not an expert on this matter, it is likely to be a
feed supplement to maintain peak production. That said, there will be
occasions such as droughts, floods & snow dumps when grass is in short
supply and grains may fill the gap. Kiwi farmers are good at making hay,
sileage, using green fodder crops etc for the leaner months.
I'd use hay in preference to grains.
Too much chance for bloat imho. I lost a goat to that once, and she was
regularly provided with a "bloat block" salt lick.
I probably could have saved her if I'd gotten home in time, but she was
dead when I got there. ;-(
Avoid Alfalfa hay tho'.
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:25:45 -0500, Charlie wrote:
He's uncultured, uneducated, and ignorant, but far from "thick", he's
He gets to play president with a host of expensive perks, while his
puppet-masters run the country for the benefit of Big (unethical)
He is uninterested that he has blood on his hands of our soldiers and
their innocent civilians. Remember, this is the sorry excuse for
a human being who -- when a woman about to be executed in
Texas* begged for her life -- he mimicked her in a high-pitched
woman's voice "Oh, please don't kill me!"
For that alone, he should go to hell,provided there is such a place.
And George Bush, despite his Bible-thumping, is no Christian.
Christians are not supposed to lie, steal, cheat and kill.
He has done all of the above, whether directly or by proxy.
This is just another ex-drunk who found Jesus. Plenty of them around,
but they don't have the power to invade another country on the basis
of lies, wreck that country, unleash a civil-religious war, then blame
*them* for not becoming a model democracy -- while his reckless,
uninformed and incompetent campaign fosters terrorism and kills and
maims our soldiers and their civilians.
As to his public utterances, he reads what they write for him**.
Check out Jon Stewart some time, when they assemble clips of speeches
he makes all using the same "talking points" devised by a very
expensive team of PR consultants. Grouped together, they are
sinisterly laughable. But Joe/Jane Beercan Voter, dead from the neck
up, can still be impressed and/or frightened, by these carefully
devised sound bites.
*You probably have the obscene stats on Texas executions. Do you have
the stats on how long Bush took to "review" each death sentence?
** Check out the difference when he doesn't have a teleprompter with
remarks prepared by his staff, but must answer questions cold.
(who remembers another America)
I fear that those in power are seeing Control Of and Belief in the Oft
Repeated Lie, slip away from them. I believe they are capable of great
evil. Great evil has been done already in the last few years, and even
so, their vision has not been realized. I am not saying I necessarily
expect this, I am saying that an extreme event, which caused the
suspension of elections, would not shock me. I believe that "they"
will do *anything* to hold on to power and their idealogical dreams.
I am not hopeful even *with* elections.
I thought you were in bed.
Yer gonna get yerself in trouble again, Bucketmouth.
BTW......interesting day. Talked to one of "my boys", home on leave
from Afghanistan and had a long interesting chat with "my sweet corn
guy", an old effer who served in Viet Nam. They ain't real happy.
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