I thought California allowed owner-builder homes and that they had to
be designated as such, which would affect the resale value and alert
potential buyers that there might be some code discrepancies. That
makes sense to me, but it also makes sense to not allow idjits to
build stuff that will eventually cost other people money. Maybe some
sort of required waiver that would prevent people from suing the
municipality, fire department no longer will answer calls to that
address, etc., but that's a quagmire of lawyers if there ever was
one. Quagmires of lawyers are to be avoided.
Thanks, Ken. I'll put my laptop on hibernate for later reading.
It's out there of course, this code-questioning, even hereon it's been
griped about over the years.
I hear what Rico's saying and agree that there can be compromises,
perhaps far better than what there are, where things appeared overly
skewed toward the govmonks'/lawmonks' advantages.
There's talk about 'peak oil', 'peak human population', 'peak metals'
and 'peak this and that', so I'll add that maybe we'll hit 'peak
How large is your rainwater catch basin and how much water do you
typically use/need daily, separately for drinking, bathing and 'other'
uses, such as watering the garden?
What is your other water source? Municipal?
How do you catch the rain water and where/how is it held? I presume
the septic tank is for all the blackwater afterward? What is a septic
bed? Is that after the water has had a chance to "digest" in the
septic tank? Where does the water go after that? Does it ultimately
percolate into the surrounding soil or is it fed back into any
municipal sewer system? What kind of restrictions might you have as to
the amount of water you can use (that the system can take/absorb) as
well as the kinds of soaps and chemicals, etc., you can use with your
Looking at my ACAD house, I have an idea for integrating a rainwater
catch basin into its design:
I realize it might be difficult to notice, but if you look at the
upstairs mannequin and just across the upstairs entry hole that it is
facing, you may notice a kind of small empty space that looks to be
enclosed by whitewall. It's just above the bathroom. Well, there's
another on the other side, as well as closet space in the middle...
Well I was thinking that within that whole area, conveniently over the
kitchen and bathrooms, and under the lower end of a shed roof, there
could be an installed cistern that gravity-fed to the areas
To limit potential contamination risk?
Does the application cover the cost of the actual survey? What's the
total cost? Some properties are sometimes advertised as already
I've heard of heavy water, but are you using "light water", Ken? ;)
WW, building a structure to hold a very heavy load on the roof or
upper floor raises some issues. It's a low-tech solution, for sure,
but there are others. Using the building height to build pressure
(head) is fine, but it has limitations.
You could also look into a ground level, or lower, cistern and use
solar power or a pedal-powered pump to raise water into a much smaller
holding tank or pressure tank at the upper level.
I can imagine. :)
But let me guess; plumbing, coding, earthquake, wind, rooftop
catchment logistics, integration within stucture itself, price,
aesthetic tradeoffs... (?)
I lost a rental once a long time ago in a really nice place (attic in
old house) when I let it slip to the landlord that I had a waterbed.
This may be the actual house:
In my *Ultimate Off-Grid Crib* there is a 100 gallon tank installed
40' above the ground in a large tree.
Using the water level principle, a pond on the otherside of the valley
and higher than the tank will gravity it.
From there the water will feed down into another 100 gallon tank in
the attic of the crib then flow to the shower/toilet/sink below.
A solar pump that can raise water 30' is pretty expensive and
I looked at the converted bicycle/pump idea and thought it might be
cool to use it to raise a heavy weight into a high tree with a rope
and pulley and as the weight descended it would draw water from a
source. Just playing around with ideas still but by next summer it
Also experimenting with self made water purification - coiled rope in
a PVC pipe.
Lots of innovation in my UOGC.
Aside from all the freezing stuff, in say 70 degree temperature can
moving water create friction heat?
I've seen video of water under enormous pressure cutting steel but is
it really cutting it or displacing it?
From what I remember there was a slot in the path of the stream of
water, so where did the steel go that was in that path?
Were the edges of the slot hot from the friction of the water hitting
I broke a frozen PVC pipe that didn't even have water in it, twice.
You do what they tell you because if you don't they will steal large
amounts of money from you.
They are not responsible for what they tell you.
In a sane world you would hire a professional with proven experience
to guide you.
In the insane world you find yourself now you must do as told just
because and if it fails, well, too bad - just reach in your pocket and
buy another one, maybe you'll be lucky the 2nd time.
Compromise, in this sense, means the property ownerss must give up
something at the demand of the gov't drone whom gives up nothing and
subsequently all of society loses.
This arrogant asshole....
L.A. County deputy District Attorney *David Campbell* told the paper
that Fahey repeatedly ignored city officials' warnings that he was
violating multiple municipal building safety and fire codes and thinks
he is above the law.
....should be found, dismembered, along a country road in the Del
Norte Redwood forest, soon.
Of what I can see in my neighbors yard about 300 yards across the way:
A 30' red racing trailer, several sprint cars in various forms of
disrepair, an old JD tractor, a large cage with about 5 Walker Coon
hounds, a junked 1975 Nova, an 80's Ford truck 4x4 with no brakes, 3
horses, a rusty riding mower in the middle of the yard with 4' tall
grass, and a bunch of unidentifiable things.
Its his property and he gets to do with it as he chooses and no one
else should have anything to say about it, in a free society like it
seems around here.
I don't understand why a certain specie of people like to stick their
fat, pock marked noses into other peoples business. Are their own
lives that bereft? Or is there brain retarded?
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