What makes people think jobs are coming back? Everything we buy is made in China. I drive a VW and a Nissan. What can an American make for me? We sued our employers right out of the country. You can only bite the hand that feeds you for only so long. The people complained, the employers left.
LSMFT wrote the following:
My 1997 Nissan PU was made in Smyrna, Tennessee by Americans.
By non-union Americans and they really just assembled Japanese parts. I had a 2000 Honda that is supposed to be American made but just about everything in it was stamped "made in Japan".
Original Message ----- From: "willshak" Newsgroups: alt.home.repair Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 8:01 PM Subject: Re: What jobs?
I had a little garden hose shut off valve from Ace that finally failed. It was made in the USA. Ace guarantees them without time limit so I took it back to them.
The new one was made in China and some of the previous metal parts are now plastic.
Phooey!
Charlie
snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote the following:
I don't know if they were union or non-union, but they were still Americans. Were they underpaid, that is, paid a salary less union dues, that was less than union workers who pay union dues?
Who assembles American parts overseas, or in Mexico and Canada?
Who put it together?
Who made the clothes with the American sounding brands you are wearing?
I don't like it either, but you can blame both the Republicans and the Democrats for it, and maybe the unions. Union heads are like lawyers, they don't give a rat's ass about the clients, just what they can get out of it.
There is no necessary connection between manufacturing and jobs. There are many jobs that don't involve making anything: lawyers and undertakers to name two.
wrote
My 2007 Hyundai Sonata was 25% US made, 75% Korea. My 2010 Sonata is up to
48% US made. Next year the Elantra is moving to the US for production and Hyundai will be more American than GM. The most popular Ford model is made in Mexico.I used to laugh at people buying Hyundai, but now I think it is the best value car on the road in the US. Best quality car I've ever owned, superior to my Buicks and a Mercedes I had.
Hyundai and Mercedes are kicking butt here in Alabamastan which is turning into a major automotive manufacturing center. I drove past the Mercedes plant today on my way to Columbus, MS for a service call. If I remember correctly, the Hyundai plant is the most advanced automotive manufacturing plant in the world. A lot of vehicle plants have sprung up in the Southeast perhaps because there is no big union presence down here. 8-)
TDD
Here are some excerpts from videos of Fareed Zakaria interviewing some CEOs
t assembled Japanese parts.
willshak wrote:
=93Union heads are like lawyers, they don't give a rat's ass about the clients, just what they can get out of it.=94
Just like the shortsighted CEOs and politicians who provided the need for their existence in the first place.
Both of my Toyotas were made in the US.
Jim
I really feel for the working people right now. That is, those who are not self employed. For the self employed, and entrepreneurs, the world is the same oyster it always was. And now that Barry has confiscated all the money, and has it stored somewhere waiting on those "shovel ready jobs" he promised, I hope it does not evaporate in the meantime.
But wait, he can spend a lot of it taking thousands of people to India at $200 million a day. That should dispose of some of it. I wonder where he got the thousands of people. I know he doesn't have that many friends. And what can cost $200 million a day in a country where 7 cents US buys lunch? Probably spending money for him and Moochelle, stored in a very large trunk.
Let's see ................
A billion for the trip ....................
divided by $50,000 for an annual wage ............
that's 40,000 people who could have worked for a year.
Too bad Barry and Moochelle feel the need to go to India and spend two billion when there are at least 40,000 people here who need work to try and get their house payments current on the same amount of money.
A shame and a disgrace to be spending money like that with so many people hurting, and that includes the really down and out homeless street people. Two billion would buy a lot of hot meals for them. At a buck apiece, two billion. But we can't expect Barry to give up one dime of anything he's worked so hard for. That community organizing is hard work.
But I guess that's what happens when a poor disadvantaged youth grows up and finds the keys to the printing presses, and has to get back at all the certain types of people who made his life so disadvantaged.
Hypocrite. He won't even get off this horse when it's dead. And yesterday, the legs fell off.
Steve
Democrats are very good at spending other people's money. No, I'm not a Republican, Republicans disgust me but Democrats are special, they horrify me. 8-)
TDD
I would be upset also, but there comes a time you don't believe everything you hear from talking heads. Try looking up FactCheck.
In part from FactCheck:
This highly doubtful claim originated with one Indian news agency quoting an anonymous source in Mumbai.
This story has spread rapidly among the president's critics, but there is simply no evidence to support it. And common sense should lead anyone to doubt it. For example, the entire U.S. war effort in Afghanistan currently costs less than that - about $5.7 billion per month, according to the Congressional Research Service, or roughly $190 million per day. How could a peaceful state visit cost more than a war?
Nevertheless, the story was widely repeated without any additional reporting. Soon after the article was released, The Drudge Report - a news aggregation website - linked to the Press Trust of India article, with the headline "REPORT: US to spend $200 million per day on Obama's Mumbai visit." Later that day, Rush Limbaugh claimed on his radio show that "Five hundred seven rooms at the Taj Mahal, 40 airplanes, $200 million a day this nation will spend on Obama's trip to India." He repeats the "$200 million a day" claim several times throughout the show without specifying its source.
LOL. 7,000.000 mfg jobs gone since 2000, and "There is no necessary connection between manufacturing and jobs."
Voodoo talk.
--Vic
You're missing something besides the union. Germans and Koreans are in charge. That's why they're kicking butt. As usual, there's more than one side of a story. Good for Alabama. The guys working there are probably within a buck of UAW wages, but with less benefits. Whatever works.
--Vic
Well, they're not flocking to the Northeast to build any plants are they? 8-0
TDD
"Charley Nukin" wrote
If you believe everything you read from Fact Check, what are you doing for lunch? I have this bridge for sale. Cheap. And I'll buy lunch, too. Have your secretary contact my secretary.
Steve
Heart surgery pending? Read up and prepare. Learn how to care for a friend.
The profits from that plant mostly went to Japan, not the local economy.
But the wages for much of it went to the local economy. To the extent that they bought parts (and utilities, and hand towels, etc.) that went to the local economy. American plants don't do much more than that.
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