Troubles attaching a gas range to kitchen cabinets, and also in English...

[SammyBar]

Hi all,

I have some problems with my english vocabulary so I need to make some First: Is it "gas oven" or "gas range" the english (american) name for the device that is used for coooking dinner in the kitchen? I mean the device that have integrated a cooktop and a oven. Such device comes in two variants: it is one that is called "freestanding" 'cause it stands on his own feets, and the second variant is supposed to be attached to the kitchen cabinets 'cause it does not have any legs. Which is the american english name for this "attacheable gas oven"? My problem is the following: I'm constructing my own kitchen cabinets and I bought an "attacheable gas oven". I'm looking for instructions on how to attach the device to the holding cabinet. The user guide included in the device specifies the size of the clearings for the holding cabinet but does not tell anything if I need to protect the internal walls of the cabinets with something thermal. My fear is the device contains an oven. May be the hot oven can cause a fire on the cabinet? The cabinets are made of particleboard and painted with oil-based enamel. The instructions from the fabricant specifies a clearing of 40 millimetres from both sides of the oven wich has ventilation openings on both sides but no more. Then I'm looking for some tricks on how do the job, but I'm not capable of select the correct english keywords. I've been googling for images with "gas oven" or "gas range" keywords and all the results I get are the freestanding versions, not the attaceable ones...

So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device to the cabinet is welcomed Thanks in advance

Sammy

[Clint]

If it was me, I'd be in touch either with the company that sold me the oven/stove/range, or the company that made it.

Clint

[Lee Michaels]

"SammyBar" wrote

I would try "built in appliances".

And the oven - cook top combination is usually called a range.

At least in the local ads.

[gw]

What you are describing is called a "drop-in range" if it has no feet. If it has feet, but no finished sides, it is a "slide-in range". If it has finished sides and feet, it is a "freestanding range". In any case, the instructions should clearly show the minimum distance to flammable materials. In the case of my slide-in electric, I was required to leave 1" at the rear. The sides were zero clearance. As long as it fit in the hole, the insulation on the stove was good enough for direct contact with the cabinet.

Check your instructions for some type of phone-in help line. They would rather answer your questions than defend a lawsuit.

[Lee Michaels]

"Lee Michaels" wrote

The terms; "drop in range" and "drop in stove" are also used.

[Peter Ashby]

we have recently replaced our fitted oven (Neff, electric) and it is a tight fit at the sides. It sits against standard melamine chipboard so is only an outer skin. Clearance at the rear is the one you need to find out about.

We have a drop in gas range above it which just sits in a hole in the counter top, there are little metal clips in the edges of the hole that grip it.

It is much safer to make sure the appliance is not going to have hot external walls than to trust that the installation will be appropriate and not cause a fire.

Peter

[SammyBar]

My "device" is not exactly that. It is not a oven but "a oven with a cocktop". But the most critical part in terms of security is the oven so I'll check the provided links.

Thanks for your help. Sammy

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[SammyBar]

Your definitions are very clear. I'd suggest to add them to the wikipedia. I'm not kidding. It was the first place I look for the correct names and nothing about ovens and ranges more than some old pictures and history...

My instructions specifies 40millimetres on each side and on the back. But it does not says anything if the material can be anything or something fireproof...

You are right. I'll try to contact the manufacturer. Our customer support service rates are not very outstanding (Mexico) but anyway I'll try. The manufacturer is Bosch that is a very expensive one so it will be curious to rate their customer support service...

Thank you very much for your hints Regards Sammy

[Mike O.]

Locally, we call it a drop in range.

Check your manual for clearances but with all that we have installed none have required extra protection inside the cabinet to which the range was mounted. One thing they do seem to be specific about is the clearances to anything flammable ABOVE the cook top surface. Another thing to look for is the cut-out dimensions for the counter top. Often times the cut-out in the counter top will require a small notch near the front edge of the cut-out. If you are unsure about your manual, check the web site of the range manufacturer for any updated version of the manual.

Mike O.

[Clint]

Try contacting them via e-mail or website, if you have issues getting in touch through a toll-free number.

Clint

[SammyBar]

There is nothing said about clearance above... I plan to put a cheap .... mmmh how to say "pseudo smokestack" on top in the future but in between it will have a particleboard cabinet above... I'll check for this point.

You are right. I know some drop in range models have a "cut" on each side to be attached to the counter top. But this model comes with a slot or "wing" outward of the top of each side and continues on the front. So I'll need to make a special cut to get the range correctly installed

Thanks for your hints Sammy

[gw]

That would almost certainly be the minimum clearance to a combustible material. I have never seen a range specify that you need to add anything as a shield between the appliance and the cabinet. (Unless it was required as part of an installation kit) If you are that concerned, I suppose you could attach some thin sheet metal to the sides of the cabinets. Mine is installed up against bare wood, and when the oven is on, the interior walls of the cabinets on either side get a little warm, but certainly not hot.

[gw]

WARNING! Minimum space above any stove or cooktop is 30" unless the bottom of the cabinet above is non-combustible. (Like a vent hood). Then the minimum is 24". Keep in mind what will happen if a pot cooking on the stovetop catches fire.

[dadiOH]

No importa el tipo de material puesto que la estufa tiene aislamiento integral. Mantenga las distancias dado por las instrucciones.

[SammyBar]

Gracias...

[Prometheus]

I installed a Bosch unit similar to what you're describing for a customer last year, and it just slides in- no need to fireproof the cabinets on either side. That's a nice oven, BTW. If you've got the glass surfaced burners on it, just be sure the countertop is dead level and you've got some help- they're heavy, and you don't want to drop one of those suckers!

[SammyBar]

I designed the cabinet that will be located on top of the range based only on aestetical considerations: just to be less taller than the surrounding cabinets. I'll check this, Thanks!

[Jim Northey]

If you have not already built the cabinet for it could you not add 10 or

[SammyBar]

The oven is a BOSCH BE200 20'' drop in range. I did not build the base cabinets yet. In my initial plan the range cabinet was 20'' wide but now I should change all the design to accomodate the extra 80mm. The problem is the kitchen is very small so I arranged all the cabinets to use standard (Mill's Pride/Home Depot) cabinets doors, resulting in a few cm clearance on each wall. But I think I'll stretch the cabinets on each side of the range cabinet but still remain the doors on the standard size. Then the doors will close over the range cabinet and it will look like the range cabinet was

20'' wide.

Thanks Sammy