Shop Fox - 1.5 hp Dust Collector


I got this Shop Fox 1.5 hp dust collector monday and I've ordered the .3 micron bag, they forgot to send it with my order but it's on it's way...my question is, I"ve seen DC 's with clear plastic bags on the bottom part of the collector and the cloth part on the top, it just seems to me for me to put the .3 micron bag on the top part and get clear plastic bags for the bottom, it would make my life easier when bagging up when changing when it's full. Shop fox wants you to have 2 cloth bags, one on top and one on the bottom, which means I'd have to get the bottom bag and put the dust into another clear bag when I need to empty it...can I put the .3 micron bag on top with the clear bag on the bottom??? Makes sense to me....what's the groups opinion on this setup....TIA
here's the link to the dc I got scroll down to the shop fox 1.5 dc on sale
http://tool-corral.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page42.html
Tina
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My little Jet 650 has a plastic bag on the bottom and a canister filter on top.

Jim B.
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The canister filter is designed to handle the rated cfm of the blower. if the bag on top is oversized and can handle the cfm, it would be acceptable. If not, you are restricting the capability of the machine.
I find it easier to take the bag out when it is only about half full. I won't bore you with what happens when it is overfilled.
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Tina, I tried that with my Jet 650 and the plastic bag was being sucked up. It is something to do with the way the Jet 650 was built. There is a cone shaped thing between the upper and lower bags. It has to be located in the upper section to be able to use the plastic bags. Ted
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Well I guess I'll just have to use the bags the way they were designed for and making it a pain to dump my bag...oh well so it goes in the world of wooddorking...I'll just do it when it's about half full....thanks for all the help....
Tina

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It appears the dust collector you ordered comes with a "real" 2 hp motor (not an overrated 120volt motor) as well as a 12" impeller. Replacing the bottom bag with plastic may restrict its capacity somewhat but you have ample capacity already. I don't think it would hurt anything to give it a try. Be sure you get a plastic bag designed for dust collection use (very heavy plastic). It needs to withstand the pressure put up by the blower.
My opinion is derived from my comparison to my similarly sized (2 hp, 12" impeller) Jet dust collector. It has a plastic bag on bottom and a canister on top. The canister provides higher air flow capacity, but Jet sells the very same dust collector with a bag on top instead of the canister and no other engineering modifications that I know of.
Bob
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The design of the bags must allow enough air flow to let the machine get the rated CFM's.
When you are ready, call these folks and get a oversize bag that will allow max air flow and let you use plastic bags on the bottom.
http://www.americanfabricfilter.com/bags_wood.htm
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What will really make your life easier is if you can set up a trash can seperator, to catch the bigger chips and shavings, before they get to the Shop Fox. Mine catches at least ten times the volume that gets to the lower bag of my 1.5 hp Delta.
Almost every store or catalog sells a plastic version, or a Google search of the Wreck will point you at numerous shop made versions. If you have to spend more than $40, I'd be surprised.
Patriarch
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If I get the seperator will it hamper the effectiveness of the system? I only will be using it on my 1 TS and a Makita LS 1013 chop box and I guess I could hook it up to my PC Router table....I'm gonna try and do a pcv piping system...(a salesman from my local woodcraft store) said to do the pvc piping instead of the flexible hosing, anyway nothing is written in stone yet...I just assembled (dc) it last night but haven't done any piping or anything yet....just trying to get my ducks in a row.................
Tina
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Effectiveness in what way? As in, will it still pull the same air, at the same velocity? I don't know. Mine is pretty effective at cleaning up from a Unisaw, a router table, a small planer, a largish bandsaw and sanding dust from a lathe. And I plug in a hose and wand, and clear the chips and sawdust off of the shop floor once in a while. The DC I have seems to be similarly rated to the one you are installing. Mine's piped with 4" pvc, and a little bit of flex, for movement of the DC and the seperator, and access to stuff that's behind.
I'm sure that I could wring another 10% from my setup, but it's too much trouble, and what's there does the job. I'm not collecting from a lot of the sources, and so there's still a lot of cleanup to do.
But dumping the can is a lot easier than dumping the plastic bag. It's more accessible, and I don't need to wrestle the band clamps. And it doen't throw up clouds of dust, because the 'cake' isn't disturbed.
...I'm gonna try and do

Experiment a bit. Take notes. Make stuff. Enjoy.
Patriarch
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Thanks for the input Patriarch...experienced people with there dc is what I wanted...I"m gonna look into the seperator method..easier then the big puff of cloud...which would be outside when dumping if I go with that configuration...my lungs couldn't take the dust cloud from hell on the inside of the shop.
Tina
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Sounds like you and I have the same model DC. I have mine hooked-up to the TS only. My big chip colector is located inside the dust hood (a piece of hardware cloth). See my website... http://members.fretzmultimedia.com/joebettystein/page5.html An employee at the Woodcraft store in Columbus, Ohio told me that in order to use a plastic bag on the bottom, I would have to have the canister filter on top. WW's Supply sells the bages, but doesn't mention this. Reading the other answers to your question, it sounds like she wasn't kidding. Cheers. Joe
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