Performax 22-44 open stand packaging - PING Leon

Leon,
How big / heavy is the main 22-44 shipping container? Is it something a healthy 40 year old can get off of a freight truck alone, maybe with a pickup bed in between? I have ramps, dollies, hand trucks, etc...
I've seen estimates of 209 and 289 pounds. 209 is easily dealt with, 289 is bit harder. <G>
All of my larger tools were purchased locally and loaded on my equipment with a forklift, this the first heavy tool I'm having delivered.
Thanks!
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The container is about 48"x24"x24" You are looking at over 200#'s. It is heavy. I slid mine to the end of the tailgate on my truck and let it pivot down and slide to the floor.

I think the 289 is with the conveyor and closed stand.

You could easily slide it down a 8' 2x12 from the trailer to your truck and probably to the ground from a truck trailer.
The really hard part was getting the sander with out tearing up the box. ;~) It's well packed in Styrofoam. Also the sander is top heavy and difficult to set onto the stand. I would not try that by myself. Fortunately there are 2 cut outs on both ends of the base for your hand to grab when lifting.
As usual I am a product tester. I have tracking problems with my conveyor belt and Performax/Jet is sending me a new belt. I hope that fixes it other wise I'll probably have to wait for a new conveyor assembly.
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"Leon" wrote in message

Drats ... I've got a 20" x 40" glued up panel that needs sanding. ;)
I hate when I buy something that's broke before I get chance to break it myself!
Actually, I'm heading out to the shop right now to run through some grits while the weather is holding.
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I wish you were here sanding that board. Actually I am going to have to get some finer grits. The one that comes on it is more for dimensioning. My planer leaves a smoother surface. Other than the tracking problem it works very well.

It seems that everything that I buy or order these days has some hitch. Unfortunately I have come to expect it. My dealer gave me another conveyer belt to try but it was 3/32" too wide. ;~(

I'll be heading over to my parents house to assemble and set up every thing that we gave them for Christmas. Maybe tomorrow I'll unpack the 12" disc sander.
See you tonight.
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Leon:
Good news! My sander works very well.
I'm not trying to break 'em off on you, but pointing out that your replacement parts will probably have you up and running well.
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GREAT! I am happy you are up and running. I'm sure that my new belt will be the fix, if not, it's not like I would have to replace the whole machine if the conveyor has to be replaced. I used it a little and it does seem to sand nicely for a heavy grit. I found that while making light passes that I can run this machine and my 1100 cfm Jet dust collector on a 15 amp circuit. Not a big deal but it is a bit less trouble than running an extra extension cord to the 20 amp circuit.
Heavy, ain't it. ;~)
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:08:30 GMT, "Leon"

You got that right!
I did a the bottom shelf, top, and some door frame pieces for a QSWO sideboard with the included 80 grit wrap. Taking the parts to 150 (and ready for a BLO rub and sanding sealer) with a ROS was a real cakewalk after flattening with the machine. The top is wider than 22 inches, and I had no problems at all sanding it with the machine set up as delivered. No grooves, ridges, etc...
I did have the occasional snipe as I developed a technique, but all of it was gone by the time I finished.
What I learned today:
Too much and too little of a bite can mess up the feed. Too much? The red light illuminates, and the sander does a great job slowing the feed to compensate. Too little? PUUUSSSSH and then PUUUULLLL ! <G>
The outfeed and infeed tables are useful as a non-moving place to rest the work on as you get ready to feed it, or to turn a large part. They are not useful in the same respect as a planer.
The operator needs to hold the work, the sanding head doesn't have the same clamping force as a planer. Bouncing boards create waves.
Those "sander cleaning erasers" are a must have. I get a lot of use with them on my 12" disc, and can see how useful they will be with the Performax.
Dust collection is very effective with my Dust Dog equipped DC1100A.
This thing really does a GREAT job once you get the technique down, and the technique is not difficult to master.
I'm very happy with it and can see this thing getting even more work than I anticipated. It's kind of cool to feed a 2" wide by 4" long part through! <G> Some of the QSWO I'm sanding gave the planer some real tearout problems, and it all nicely sanded up! I can't wait to see how it does with birds eye maple and burls!
I see mine getting most of it's use with an 80 grit wrap, sometimes with a coarser, but rarely with a finer grit. I'm going to pick some an ultra-bulk roll of 80 and some smaller packages of 36, 50, and 120.
You're gonna' like it!
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wrote:

I read some here that you can get divots as the surface gets narrower such as when a rail and stile door goes through and the rail is no longer under the drum.

They do little on large planers too. I use my 2' long in feed and out feeds on my big Delta planer strictly for holding the work as it goes in and out. I get the same results if I fold them down and not use them at all.

That was my plan, I have seen this happen on portable planers.

I have learned to use them on my finish and ROS sanders also.

I have the same and saw no dust on the few pieces that I was able to sand.

For sure, that is exactly what I wanted the machine for, short pieces that would be impossible to run through a planer.
<G> Some of the QSWO I'm sanding gave the planer some

Cool
I was thinking a finer grit as I want to do veneers and IIRC Jet offers a combination assortment of grits. They may be a good way to test the different grits a bit more economically.
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:45:12 -0600, "Leon"

I didn't see that, but I didn't run completed doors, only parts, sanding with the grain. I wouldn't want cross grain scratches on assembled doors.

Agreed.
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:26:16 GMT, "Leon"

Please keep us posted on that. I got the same machine in July and have had a terrible time getting the conveyor to track properly.
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Well, it will track properly or the machine will go back. I'd be calling Performax if I were you. There is no excuse for a machine to not work properly.
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:07:31 -0600, Chuck Taylor

Have you called Performax?
Forget 6 months, I'd be complaining the next day! <G>
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I've been assuming it was a faulty operator. I didn't know others were having the same problem. If it turns out that the conveyor needs to go back to Performax, it'll go back.
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:22:22 -0600, Chuck Taylor

Even if it is, many manufacturers can help that too. <G>
Good luck!
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:07:31 -0600, Chuck Taylor

I had to go back to Performax 3 times to get a good working conveyor assembly. It was all shipping damage. The adjustment screws for adjusting tracking were all bent .They ship the conveyor with the heavy motor at the top of the box so everytime someone slams the box onto the floor the heavy motor comes crashing down, bending the screws.
On the third conveyor I received, it too was damaged, but I was able to combine parts from the other 2 to make a working conveyor.
I wish you luck in getting a new one since the conveyor, without being strapped to a pallet with the rest of the unit is very easy to throw around in shipment and damage.
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Thanks, Leon.
My sander just arrived in three cases, stretch-wrapped to a pallet. The straight truck had a lift gate, helpful driver, and pallet jack.
Sorry to hear of your trouble, I'll let you know if I have it too.
Barry
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Per an earlier request of a follow up on my 22-44 Performax tracking problem, it has disappeared. Performax decided to send me a new conveyor belt however after removing the belt and reversing it, and then back to the correct direction again and it setting for about 10 days the belt has begun to track straight. It is still too loose on one side and occasionally comes into contact with the sanding drum when sanding 1/4" material however that does not seem to be an immediate problem. I'll hang on the new spare just in case.
Performax warns that if you do not evenly adjust or adjust too tightly, the belt could stretch over time. I suspect that because the belts come installed and over tightened that mine was not evenly "over tightened" for shipping and after relaxing for a couple of weeks has corrected itself some what.
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:10:03 GMT, "Leon"

Excellent!
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:10:03 GMT, "Leon"

Thanks for the followup. I actually left mine loosened after toying with it several days ago. Maybe I'm closer to the solution than I realized.
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I spoke to the rep a bit about how tight it should be and he indicated that the belt should be tight \ to not slip. He agreed however that mine was too loose on the right side.
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