OT: Simple, really...

[Robatoy]

[Tim W]

World, subject of guns kept in houses]

Hardly simple. The Netherlands has a very low crime rate and very few guns. Switzerland has a very high rate of gun homicide (and suicide), as you would expect from the high gun ownership rates. Of course you could argue that gun ownership prevents crime, and that the staggering crime figures in the USA would be even worse with gun control, and of course the USA also has a very high non-gun homicide rate, so what is so wrong with America.....?

Tim W

[Lew Hodgett]

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You are trying to inject logic into a paranoid knee jerk issue.

Unfortunately, never going to happen.

Lew

[HeyBub]

Comparing countries doesn't work. Consider Gun owership high/low and Gun crime high/low. Examples can be found supporting every one of the four boxes.

Further, the U.S. has situations not duplicated in other countries, such as military deaths and gang violence.

But all the studies beg the question of whether homicides attributed to firearms are bad. Assuming one goblin kills another, society is better off by two (assuming the shooter is caught and executed). In Texas, as in most other states, there exists the "But yer honor, he NEEDED killin'! " defense.

[Rusty]

I didn't see any pistols

[CW]

Did you actually look?

[Rusty]

You didn't see any did you?

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[CW]

Yes. Several.