O/T: Web Design

[LDosser]

You're welcome.

You might also take a look here:

've found some useful bits and pieces there.

[Lew Hodgett]

==================================== I've downloaded freebies in the past from them, but don't remember what.

If you wanted the Harbor Freight of web design programs, where would you look?

Lew

[LDosser]

tucows

[Robert Bonomi]

[Robert Bonomi]

Wrong. They validate _exactly_ to the standards. They are the people who

*make* the standards.

That's _no_ surprise. Microsoft can't do _anything_ "according to accepted standards." "Enhance and extend" is a corporate *requirement*.

There's more than a little truth in the old joke: "Microsoft buys Electo-Lux; makes extensive product design changes. Now they have a product that _doesn't_ suck!"

[Robert Bonomi]

In the browsers you've checked it with, that is.

If it passes the validator, 'error free', it is guaranteed to appear consistently, and 'as intended', in any standards compliant browser.

To d*mn many "web-designers" think that if it renders in MSIE (*maybe* they check with Firefox, 'for completeness') that it is correct and good for everybody. Ever hear of 'lynx' -- a text-only browser that works from character-mode terminals? Used _extensively_ by the blind, because screen-readers work with it -- and it cam provide visible/audible labelling of all the links on a page.

Then go through and clean out all the sh*t that MSFP puts in. You'll have a much better site for the experience.

[Larry Jaques]

On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:51:19 -0600, the infamous [e-mail] (Robert Bonomi) scrawled the following:

NoteTabPro. ASCII editing on steroids. Reformats whole pages of caps in a single bound!

-- We rightly care about the environment. But our neurotic obsession with carbon betrays an inability to distinguish between pollution and the stuff of life itself. --Bret Stephens, WSJ 1/5/10

[Dave Balderstone]

On the Mac, BBEdit.

[Andrew Barss]

Doug Miller wrote: :>

:>I found it hard to find a website with few errors.

: That's because it's hard to find web developers who know (or adhere to) : standards. :-) Some succeed, though: : ibm.com -- zero : sony.com -- zero : w3.org -- zero : mit.edu -- zero : xkcd.com -- zero : navy.mil -- zero errors, two warnings, both trivial : craigslist.org -- one error, one warning :

Add to that

which also makes a browser that strictly adheres to international standards.

-- Andy Barss