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Have you considered building it yourself/hisself?
Next time for a desktop I'll do it myself, either using parts from Newegg, as last time,or from Microcenter.com (they have a store close by me, in Paterson, NJ. They also have stores in CA: <http://www.microcenter.com/at_the_stores/index.html ) Microcenter has good prices, knowledgeable people, at least around here.
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"Han" wrote:

------------------------------- Have done that, but not this time around.
Just want to to spec a build list and have others do the work. ----------------------------------

MicroCenter is about 50 miles, NewEgg is in the neighborhood.
Lew
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Lew,
What does your friend do with the computer? If it is just web surfing, email, occasional doc, etc, I would just go to a big box store near you and pick one up. I don't know if they have Best Buy stores near you but you can usually get interest free for 18 months if (s)he doesn't want to lay cash out. Then if something does go wrong with it you aren't on the hook to support it. I do this for a living and have really gotten over spending my time at parties and gatherings looking at friends computer issues.
You can get more for your money building it your self, but is that what this person really needs?
-Jim
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"jtpr" wrote:
Lew,

I don't know if they have Best Buy stores near you but you can usually get interest free for 18 months if (s)he doesn't want to lay cash out. Then if something does go wrong with it you aren't on the hook to support it. I do this for a living and have really gotten over spending my time at parties and gatherings looking at friends computer issues. -------------------------------------- You have described 80%-90% of her applications.
BestBuy, HP, & Compaq are non starters.
Do me once, shame on you, do me twice, shame on me, applies to them.
As a result, most of the chain stores are eliminated. --------------------------------- You can get more for your money building it your self, but is that what this person really needs?
----------------------------------- Have done it both ways.
Specified the build list, then purchased it assembled or assembled it myself.
This is definitely a buy it assembled task.
Just want to be able to specify the build list.
Does that provide more useful info?
Lew
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Lew,

I don't know if they have Best Buy stores near you but you can usually get interest free for 18 months if (s)he doesn't want to lay cash out. Then if something does go wrong with it you aren't on the hook to support it. I do this for a living and have really gotten over spending my time at parties and gatherings looking at friends computer issues. -------------------------------------- You have described 80%-90% of her applications.
BestBuy, HP, & Compaq are non starters.
Do me once, shame on you, do me twice, shame on me, applies to them.
As a result, most of the chain stores are eliminated. --------------------------------- You can get more for your money building it your self, but is that what this person really needs?
----------------------------------- Have done it both ways.
Specified the build list, then purchased it assembled or assembled it myself.
This is definitely a buy it assembled task.
Just want to be able to specify the build list.
Does that provide more useful info?
Lew
=========== Best Buy just plain charges way too much more than most other sources.
--
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wrote:

I bought my last stereo receiver from BestBuy and it died (surround sound switch on = no sound whatsoever.) The salesman assured me that they had a repair station at that local store. When I returned it, the guy at the service depot counter said "Oh, we don't repair those here. All we can do here is replace knobs and such. It will take two weeks to repair." Two and a half weeks later, they returned it. It wasn't fixed. They stated, AS IF, on the repair slip "Resoldered transformer connections." I've never been back to the lying bastids.
It was and is a transitory problem, about once in 150 turn-ons. I believe it's an occasionally sticky relay. A few repeated on/off cycles fixes it, so I've never bothered to repair it properly. I've seen it maybe 2-3 times a year...for about 13 years now. ;)
-- Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace. -- Robert J. Sawyer
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Lew Hodgett wrote:

How bad was your experience BestBuy and HP (who acquired Compaq in 2002)? Just curious.
Dell gives you quite a few options in building a system. You might also look at some of their pre-built (returned, I guess) systems for a good price. To do this click on "outlet" towards the right of their main menu at dell.com to see if you can find something suitable.
Bill

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"Bill" wrote:

------------------------ An elephant has a shorter memory than I do.
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Lew Hodgett wrote:

Bad experience, huh? IIRC, Fry electronics used to assemble computers from parts purchased by the customer. They didn't do it for free, but (the important thing is that) it would mostly relieve you of needing to become involved if a component breaks down the road... Hope this helps.
Bill
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"Bill" wrote:

-------------------------------- Another non starter when it comes to puters.
Lew
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Lew Hodgett wrote:

You had a bad experience with Frys too? Usually you'd be sitting down and having a beer by now. You don't hesitate to point me to Harbor Freight. Why all the trouble with this?
Compared to a few years ago, you can buy a computer and replace it in 6 months if it breaks and still be ahead.
I just went and checked, and I noticed BestBuy has a desktop for $279. Of course, as you know, you get what you pay for...
I think you'd probably be on perfectly "reasonable" ground with a new Dell. But if you're not willing to chance it, I can respect that. Keep counting the hours involved and good luck with your decision.
Bill
By the way, I've heard MaximumPC Magazine puts their issues online for free after 1 month (I subscribe). If you look through a few issues of that, it should bring your up to date enough to make some hardware decisions if you want to build your own. tomshardware.com is another very good site for helping to design a computer. Personally, I wouldn't go the liquid-cooling route.
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"Bill" wrote:

------------------------------- I don't do HP which includes Compaq.
Same with Gateway.
Lew
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On 7/15/11 7:58 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:

They make great servers, but PCs and laptops, not so much, from recent experience. I am *very* happy with my current toshiba laptop.
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"FrozenNorth" wrote:

----------------------------- My friend also likes hers.
Lew
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On 7/15/2011 8:07 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:

Been patiently waiting for my six year old Dell XPS M1210 laptop to die so I could upgrade, but it just won't quit.
(that oughta do it)
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On 7/16/2011 8:49 AM, Swingman wrote:

It will be longer, remember you had a new mother board replaced a couple of years ago.
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On 7/16/2011 12:17 PM, Leon wrote:

Damn! ... forgot. Wonder if I have any shells left ...
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I have a similar experience
I've been patiently waiting for Dell to produce drivers that work with my six year old laptop. Their Indian BS tech help installed the wrong drivers, as substitutes when the thing was a month old and it has never worked properly since. The proper drivers have never become available as far as any tech helper can find. The LCD screen is installed upside down so you have to almost close the lid to see the two levels upgrade screen to display clearly.
After shipping to repair in the box they sent me they sent it back loose and told me they didn't authorize any repairs. It sat in some shipping depot for three months, lost until I produced tracking numbers.
Dell! Never again.
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Been patiently waiting for my six year old Dell XPS M1210 laptop to die so I could upgrade, but it just won't quit.
(that oughta do it)
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On 7/14/2011 10:01 PM, Bill wrote:

Dell is great if you never need to talk to the service people. I threatened to return my dad's Dell 3 weeks after receiving if they transferred me to another department to answer a simple question. I was transferred all over India no less than 15 times in a 90 minute period. I did get my answer but I was boiling mad. My previous 9 computer purchases were Dell and the phone service has been going down hill for quite some time.
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Leon wrote:

That may explain it. Last time I talked to them over the phone was 12 years ago. More recently, I bought my wife a laptop from them and never had a problem with it until she dropped it. That left the screen unstable, but usable in a desktop configuration, and I never contacted them about that...
I didn't realize that retail computers had dropped in quality so much. My Dell (1998) was the only prebuilt one I bought and it worked fine. In speaking to customer service at that time, two out of three of Dell's people were helpful, and a third spewed incorrect information.
Bill
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