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Morning Fellows I have a bit of a problem I don't have a proper work bench , not enough room in garage, I use a couple of pieces of 3/4" ply on top of each other over sawhorses. I have a number of 3/4" x 3" oak slats from outdoor benches to sand . How do I hold them securely to be able to face sand them with out vice jaws getting in the way.
Sal
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On 6/3/2012 9:30 AM, sal wrote:

Got some scrap plywood?
Take an hour and make some of these:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJigsFixturesMethods#5684918946109089298
The can be be clamped to just about any surface, and "stuff" can be clamped to them ... innumerable uses such as this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJustStuff#5677889742883295826
and this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopEuropeanStyleKitchen201102#5679344926293319650
Handy, up to the limits of your imagination, guaranteed.
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The more I see those, the more I know I need them. <g> Do you use stability gussets on both flanges, or just the bottom?
Oh, I finally got a chance to try out my Makita plunge saw while making barn doors last week. I absolutely love it! Now I see why you and Leon gush over the Festool plunges.
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On 6/3/2012 12:29 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

I know I probably preach about them too much, but if there is another "assist" in the shop that can be made from scraps at little or no cost, and be so damn versatile in so many situations, I'd like to know about it. Shirt pockets pale by comparison, once you get the idea. ;)
I generally put just one 45 degree brace on both the top and bottom, small enough to do the job but not get in the way of clamping.
About the most important thing you can is to take the time to make sure that they are the same height, whichever side is up. I generally make them precisely 6" high in both directions by sizing the web, and the dadoes in the flanges the web sits, in correctly .. the "flanges" are simply cut to the precise dimension you want. If you use the same reference edge when cutting the dadoes, it makes no difference is the web is perfectly centered on the flanges.

I bought some 1/2 & 1/4 x 4 x 8 prefinished plywood for drawers this past week, naturally on the only day it poured rain so I couldn't cut it off the back of the truck as I usually do.
Instead of wrestling a 4x8 sheet into position to cut on the table saw in the limited space, I used the "iBeams" above, set up on top of the table saw and outfeed table, and the plunge saw to rough cut the plywood.
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OK. Cool.

Time to try out my HF dado blade on the Ryobi...

Prefinished ply? http://www.boulterplywood.com/prefinished_plywood.htm Ouch! $129 for 3/4" red oak, and $149 for cherry? Huh, their drawer sides aren't too bad, though.

Yeah, it's with panels that I'm going to find even more love of the Makita plunge. I had one slip with mine the other day, about 3/16" on a 4' crosscut on 3/8" CC ply. I guess I'll need to carefully brush off the anti-slip pads before each use, not just tap and blow and brush with my hand. Methinks I'll also need to get used to adjusting the play between the saw frame and guide with a lighter touch.
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A vise might hold a 3/4" workpiece well enough with 1/8-1/4 sticking proud of the jaws to sand it. It just depends on your vice and how smooth the sides of the workpiece are. I'd probably clamp to a table or bench.
When clamping to the bench, I often put a clamp at one end and somewhere around halfway down. Then, I simply sand up to near the clamp and move the clamp when the unclamped part is finished. If clamping position is important, a third clamp can be employed so there's two clamps holding the piece at any time.
If you've got small pieces, a commonly demoed trick is to trace around the workpiece on a piece thinner than the workpiece and cut that out. The workpiece is then placed in the frame and the frame is clamped. Sometimes they use a piece of shelf liner to keep the piece from moving around.
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I use this when sanding. Available in supermarkets, kmart, etc. (Amazon.com product link shortened) Just lay it on your work surface with the part to be sanded on top of it. Art
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sal wrote:

I'd probably use my left hand. In 60+ years of chopping up wood I don't ever recall the need to clamp something when I was sanding it unless I was using a belt sander. Are you? If so, make a couple of plywood "L"s, clamp the piece to be sanded between them, clamp the "L"s to table.
I do often sand on a piece of low loop carpet but the main reason is to avoid dinging the side I am currently sanding.
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I use the sticky rubber anti-skid shelf/toolbox liner mat for that. About a buck a yard at Wally. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Duck-12-x-5-Easy-Liner/16451274
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Thanks Guys some good idea's ,by the way I am using a belt sander so the material has to be fairly secure. The benches are from an old historic church 1850 that we still open during summer months to show case theater and tourist viewing..
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Morning Fellows I have a bit of a problem I don't have a proper work bench , not enough room in garage, I use a couple of pieces of 3/4" ply on top of each other over sawhorses. I have a number of 3/4" x 3" oak slats from outdoor benches to sand . How do I hold them securely to be able to face sand them with out vice jaws getting in the way.
Sal
Old carpet padding, or other source of relatively thin foam rubber. It can help to put a screw or nail or two into the ply (deep enough that the top of them are below the surface you will be sanding) to take some of the direct force.
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