Grizzly compressor, H4519

I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and HVLP sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519 (http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost too good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too loud?
This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200 and 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the same air flow.
Cheers, Ollie
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I see where it is a 220 volt compressor.

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You are confusing inflated HP ratings on the other compressors. 3 HP anywhere in the world will get you about 10 CFM @ 90 PSI. I have a Porter Cable Compressor, advertised at 7 HP, reality is about 3 HP when you do the math of the volt/amp draw of the motor. It has a 60 gallon tank, produces 9+ CFM @ 90 PSI. I paid less than $400 for it.
Now as far as the Grizzley compressor you link to. It seems to be a good deal, other than the tiny tank, if all the specs are accurate. As for reliability, noise, donno!
One thing to consider, that compressor will not be very portable, it weighs 179 LBS. Sure you can roll it around the shop, but you are not going to take it with you where ever you go like a small pancake compressor. Greg
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You're also not going to take it with you because most of the places you go are probably not going to have 220v handy (and even if they do will probably have a different outlet than your plug). Given the 220v I am a little confused with the small tank on what looks to be an otherwise pretty nice sounding unit.
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Here is the one I have, specs seem real to me. Ignore the peak HP, running is 3 HP, 9.7 SCFM @ 90 PSI. http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?eT7&pG01 I have run a DA sander for hours on end with this compressor, it will keep up, just barely! When the sander is running, so is the compressor. The only time the compressor quits is when I set down the sander! The compressor I had before I had for years, long before the "Sears HP" ratings came out. It was rated somewhere around 6+ CFM @ 90 PSI, it had a real 2 HP 240 volt motor. It would not keep up to the fore mention DA sander, but comparing the two compressors, the specs seem realistic to me. Greg
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Greg, How you would describe the noise level in the CPLC7060V? Some people are sying that the heavy cast iron compressor is superior over the aluminium with iron sleeves. What is your experience? +++ Ollie

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Sure the cast iron compressors make less noise, but at a higher purchase price! My feelings are you need to get close to $1000 before you will get a real quality compressor, and I was not going to spend that much. I belive that cast iron compressors in the same price range as the PC are about the same quality. This PC compressor replaced a older cast iron 2 HP compessor, noise level is about the same. As far as longevity, time will tell. I know of a couple 60 gallon, 5 HP, (Sears, now Kmart HP!) aluminum compressors that have seen pretty regular use that are 15 - 20 years old. My last compressor was up in the attic of the garage, so I could barely hear it. This compressor was too big to hide up there so I built a closet in the corner of the shop for it. I used it for a couple months just sitting in the cornerand did not have a big problem with the noise, but I could not hear the TV over it! Even if I had bought a more expensive cast iron compressor it would reside in a closet. I have been satisfied with the purchase. Paid about $385 at Mills Fleet Farm. Greg
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A common method of getting better CFM performance with lower priced compressors is to use a 3400 rpm motor rather than the more common 1750 rpm. The drawbacks are greater noise and a shorter compressor lifespan. Perhaps this is the case with this particular model.
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I also am in the market for a new compressor. My old Sears unit has given up the ghost after 30 years of good service, It is about the same size as the Grizzlegut one.
Wrestled with the problem of needing a unit that could be primarily used for spraying finishes in the shop but one that could be taken offsite and used for a nail gun.[bradgun]
My solution was the large air tank as sold at HD and Lowes with the old yeller flex coiled air hose. filled with air at 100psi it will last all day . Should you run out of pressure when offsite then all you need to do is find the nearest gas station.
As mentioned by others the tank looks a little small but may be fine . It isit is then I was wondering if my existing tank on my dead sears could be used in series ???? mjh
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From the looks, it is a belt drive oil lubed unit, so it should be "relatively" quiet(compared to oil-less ones), and very dependable.
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Nice specs but the thing about that machine that I find odd is the combination of wheels and 220V
How many places can you move this thing to that you will be able to find the correct recepticle?

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Hmm, they cut corners in two areas to get the price down. The tank is absolutely, ridiculously small for the claimed capacity. Its silly to talk about how long it takes to fill the tank. Of course it doesn't take long. There's not much there to fill! I'd rule it out just for that reason. The other area is that its an aluminum compressor with cast iron sleeves. Don't think of it as equal to the competitor's solid cast iron compressors. The other competitors weigh over 200 lb because they have larger tanks and cast iron cylinders. More weight is there because its more compressor - substantially more, in my opinion. A solid cast iron compressor will also be quieter than an aluminum compressor.
If you want a decent value for $200, its probably OK, but don't go after it, if you really do need the claimed capacity. Also remember the price is really $258 when you count shipping and start comparing it to local retail.
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I bought a smaller Grizz compressor about a year ago and have not been too happy with it.
Very noisy compared to my old pancake and hard to adjust the pressure. So far impossible to adjust when it kicks on as far as a lower limit.
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If the compressor is strictly for the shop, buy a Quincy 3 hp. Will do anything you need to except run tools with very large air requirements. 20gallon tank is not enough for some sanders and HVLP guns.They are made in Quincy Illinois, oil bath ,quiet, will outlast any brand I have ever used. I believe the ratings is over 8 at 90 and over 10 at 40 If you need to lug a compressor from job to job, I would suggest a twin tank with at least 4 gallon capacity.I have a Senco, made by DeVilbiss I think for portability. mike
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What is the best place to purchase Quincy? What model is the most popular?
Ten years ago Harbor Freight was selling the Quincy model that won a review in a woodworking magazine. Is that model still relevant today?
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After all this the grizzle guts units still looks good if you can believe the figures.....mjh
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