Some fun images - scrolling down into this blog -
I was searching for the old pic with the baby
all plastered with adverts - found a similar pic there
An early post in this thread made me laugh - Indy/Penzoil -
- hah - motor sports must be the poster-boy for
advertising ! for many many years. Some other sports
were slow-to-the-game - I remember the complaints when
we followed the Europeans and plastered adverts on the
boards of the hockey rinks .. resistance is futile.
Enjoyed the page; read the whole thing. It expressed many of my
thoughts which I have been espousing yesterday and today. It didn't
seem very encouraging. I prefer to be hopeful (part of human nature, I
Actually, no. The race you speak of has only been called
the Indianapolis 500 since 1981 (usually "the Indianapolis
500 presented by Firestone" or something like that on TV).
Prior to 1981 it was officially called the International
Sweepstakes (sometimes the International 500 Mile Sweepstakes).
Amoung auto racing folk, it's just called the 500.
(recognizing that that's irrelevant to Bill's point, but we
may as well be accurate)
Similar "greed" at the source of both, no? Look at what the Internet
has become between the 1990s and now. It's almost like walking downtown
in NYC. I think that our "Inalienable Rights" might be updated to
include some "protection from marketers". I find it a new source of
"pollution". That you have currently found a good way to "hide" does
not, to my mind, eliminate the societal problem. YMMV.
I agree that excessive advertising can be a form of pollution. I went to a
minor league ballgame where they were showing a commercial on the
scoreboard with the sound piped all through the ballpark. You can't get
away from it.
The only way to get rid of some of this advertising is to be proactive in
avoiding and complaining about it. Close websites that require you to
click through/off an ad before viewing the page, take points off of reviews
for obnoxious advertising. Ads aren't ever going to go away, but we can
make sure they're only in acceptable forms.
Yes. I once paid $20 for an "ad filter" for IE that did the same thing
that FireFox now does (for free). I considered it a well-spent $20 at
the time. Like you said, and as with electricity, it would be better
to deal with the problem closer to the source.
Now that we have the general background layed out. Imagine B*** sitting
down at his computer, to "get away from it all, or whatever", opening up
his newsgroup reader, and reading in the first (actually second) message:
Festool is expensive too. ;!)
You can't make that stuff up!
Imagine L*** sitting down at his computer, to get away from it all, or
whatever, opening up his newsgroup reader, and reading 'B***'*" posts
and them still being totally OT with hardly ever anything related to
You can't make that up.
Well, at least we've come full circle to where you may truly understand
my first post to this thread. People seem to be in a
policitically-minded mood. Perhaps its related to the Iowa caucuses. I
Really like the Lee Valley catalog. And I like they way they tastefully
send out a version several times a year, instead of emailing me perhaps
twice a week like Rockler does. Even Harbor Freight uses a little
restraint. CPO-Woodworking not so much.
Yes. I can more than control myself. I don't have control over my
environment, unless I choose to stay home and stay of the roads. If
elected, I would make others respect the rights of others for a better
environment. Almost always, where there is a conflict between man and
nature, nature loses. I would try to change that. My values comes
before my pocketbook and I have the documentation to prove it.
I'm not really thinking so much about me. I'm think what it will be like
for people a generation or two down the road. We need to plant more
trees, literally and spiritually. And by spiritually, I don't
necessarily mean religion--I mean we need to quit teaching kids to shoot
other people with guns. Watch the news. That said, I think more guns
among law-abiding people would be better than fewer guns.
There are bigger problems that what you consider to be a problem. You
can't change human nature. If you were elected I suspect you would not
be handling real issues if you focused your time on trying to make
people respect each other.
How about making corporations respect people? Maybe we need to give
"corporate entities" some limits and guidelines. A received a notice
from the bank today, a big bank, New Rule: Discrepancies concerning
deposit slips may or may not be corrected, at the banks discretion, if
the discrepancy is less than $10. Someone must have stayed up all night
thinking of that new profit generating idea... I wonder which ones
they will correct? Too much to ask for a bank to have to put the
customer's money into his or her account?
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