Bosch 4410 SCMS questions

I am thinking of using this saw to replace my seldom used radial arm saw. I want to keep my long fence and cabinet that is built into my shop. If you have this saw could you tell me the distance from the front of the fence to the most rearward part of the saw when the slide is all the way back. I have a wall that is 15 inches from the fence and I need to see if I can cut a pocket in that wall to accomodate the slide of this saw. I can't go very deep with this pocket because the wall is an outside wall of my shop. Also how wide the base of the 4410 is when all fences are set to narrowest position. No info of this kind on any document by Bosch. Thanks.
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I bought this saw at a woodworking show a few weeks ago, but haven't installed it yet. This is my incentive to clean up my shop. I'll at least take it out of the box this weekend and measure it. The manual has loads of information including all of the callibration procedures, but not any dimensions. I'll let you know what I find out.
chuck

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I'm guessing you've never seen a Bosch 4410. Neither have I, but it appears to be largely based on the chassis of a 4412, which is the type of saw I use. If that's the case, there's no way it'll fit your limited workspace. The 4412, at least, is a big sucker requiring a full 26 inches of free space from the fence back. I'd say the machine's minimum width is, at least, as much.
To be frank, I don't think any sliding miter saw would fit into the space you've allotted.
Rob
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Rob:
The Makita LS1013 will fit. The outside wall is 2x6 with 5/8 drywall on it so that adds potentially 5-7/8 which makes 20-7/8 overall. The Makita measured 19-3/4 from fence back. Close but it would work. I have had good luck with Makita and will go that route I suppose but their saw had way more slop in the arm mechanism than did any of the Bosch or Hitachi saws on display. The Makita arm mechanism has the slide reversed from the other designs making the arm at full extension for most small cuts resulting in more play. I do like the double bearing of the Makita but was not thrilled with the mitre stop detents either. They were sloppy and it would appear that for my type of work I would still have to make a trial cut when setting up each miter. I was hoping to have a system that would set up perfectly without fuss. I have had good luck with Makita but the castings and overall engineering of the Bosch saws seemed better. Their detent mechanism was very strong and positive with no wiggle. You are correct the 4412 is a monster but their 3915 is not so big. I just thought that since the 4410 was a new saw and a 10" slider that I would like to measure it and then perhaps look at it if it can be made to fit. I am going to own the thing a long time so am not in a super hurry and won't buy anything if I can't find what I need. The old RAS still works OK.

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The distance from the fence to the end of the rails with the saw all of the way back is approximately 25". The distance from the front of the base to the back of the rails is approx 31". The width without the fences or the extensions extended is 23" plus an inch or so for the knob to hold the "stop". This knob (or the extensions themselves) can be removed.

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Thank you for taking the time to do those measurements for me. It looks like it is too deep at 25" so I will likely go with the Makita LS1013 or stay with my Radial arm saw a bit longer. From what I could see of the specs on the 4410 it looked like a fine saw. The German engineering always seems to impress me. The 3915 was a nice saw too but only single bevel design and it also was a bit too deep at over 23" . The 3915 however did use a single slider bearing on one side with what appeared to be a delrin bushing on the other side. That part I was not crazy about. The Makita did use linear ball bearings on both tubes. The thing was just a bit wobbly for my tastes and it seemed mainly to be because the slide bars were fully extended when the saw was all the way back which seemed backward from what the saw needs to be. Just my musings. Again - thanks a bunch.
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