Bandsaw choices?

I'm looking into a new bandsaw. Any opinions from the group would be appreciated. Have you read the review in the current FWW? Their top choices are a Laguna & a Grizzly. Laguna is pricey (maybe worth it) . I got a grizzly jointer earlier this year & really like it. The price was good & the spiral cutter head handles difficult woods easily, but there were some things about the initial set up that could have been easier. The FWW review says blade changing is a pain on the Grizzly. Anyone have a decent powered Grizzly that they like?
Thx, Chris
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I googled this group and this question has never been asked in 10 years. So I just bought a 30 year old Delta bandsaw. Try Google advanced search using bandsaw purchase in the all words box and rec.woodworking in the exact phrase box.
http://www.google.com/search?as_q Ίndsaw+purchase&hl=en&num&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=rec+woodworking&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images
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Chris wrote:

I did.
I have a Delta X5 and my experiences are far from what they found, which is too bad. I hate to hear about what used to be a good tool doing poorly. It seemed that they did the resaw test using the stamped tension scale, which isn't accurate on mine either. Mine is equipped with cool blocks and a link belt, but was only $800 at the time I bought it. I also noticed the glaring lack of the American Flag on the magazine photo of the X5.
Based on the review, I'd probably buy the Laguna, but I'd give the Grizz a really good look. While Grizzly has come an awfully long way, their resale value seems to really suck in my area, so I'd have to be sure I was keeping the tool for a while.
Don't forget to keep certain ratings in perspective. For example, some people are constantly changing blades. For them, easy blade changes are a big deal. I do 99% of my bandsaw work with the same 1/4" blade, only changing to a 1/8" or 1/2" on rare occasions, so that feature would move down the line for me.
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Hi Chris, I bought a Grizzly 17" G0513 about three years ago. It has worked well for me, never stalled or given me any problem. Blade changing is not really hard once you get the hang if it. Hope this helps. Ronnie
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What did they say about Grizzly? What size are you looking for?
I am having a GO514X delivered today; though it might take a while to make it to my basement. I chose it over a european saw because it was 2/3rds the price. If you are using them all day long it might be worth the price, but most home woodworkers don't.
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Toller wrote:

They really liked one of them, even complimenting the fit and finish.
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If you are buying a replacement, I'd say go with the Laguna. First saw, consider the Griz, you probably will not know the difference. The Griz will be a good value and will get the job done. The Laguna will be a polished version and will not likely to ever need to be upgraded or have better components installed to replace the stock ones. The guides are probably the best money can buy, the motors are Baldor, and the fences are large and strong to name a few. Keep in mind that there are 2 groups of Laguna's. The less expensive line is built in Bulgaria and the more expensive HD series is built in Italy. I personally have the LT16HD and it will be my last BS. My Laguna vs. the old Craftsman and 2 week old 18" Rikon stays adjusted with repeated blade tensioning. I simply retention the blade and I am good to go, I had to fiddle with the Craftsman and Rikon every time I used it to get it to track decently. Typically a BS takes longer to change blades and set up that other saws. The faster and more successful this procedure goes the more you will probably use it.
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June of 06 I put a Rikon 18" 10-345 on layaway from Woodcraft on one of their $999 sales.
Since I had no shop to put it in yet, as it was planned construction, the saw stayed at Woodcraft until December of 06.
I put the saw together in June of 2007, and found that the plastic that covers the main table had sagged and allowed a corner to dry out from the covering lubricant to prevent rust.
Other than cutting a few dowels and some pen blanks, I just this week tried to put on a Woodslicer blade I bought June of 2006. The blade turned out to be about 1/2" too long. A trip to a local saw shop got the blade cut down to fit.
The stock blade was CRAP for resawing, but fine for general bandsaw work. A new woodslicer is on it's way with no shipping charges from the supplier for my troubles.
The top wheel assembly was not tight to the frame, and require both tightening of a set of allen bolts, as well as shimming of the spring assembly to the frame. It had left to right movement.
I used my shortend woodslicer last night to resaw a 5/4 cherry board into 4 1/4+ slices for some trim to put on a cabinet. Worked great, and my opinion of the saw rose a bit.
Alan
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I bought a Powermatic PWBS-14CS in February, It was on sale for $899.99 and came with a $100.00 rebate and a free riser. I absolutley love it. I have compared it to a buddies 14" Delta X5 and it beats it hands down on fit, finish, power not to mention the full Carter guides and blade quick release. The saw is quiet and vibration free. The extra power is nice. Nice table, though the table extension is kind of odd. I hvae use mine for resawing oak, maple, walnut, bloodwood canarywood and purpleheart so far and it has been great.
Good luck on your choice and with whatever saw you decide on.
Neil

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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 05:32:29 -0400, Chris wrote:

Given the price difference between the Laguna and the G0457, I would strongly argue to go with the Grizzly. When I shopped around for my first BS, I finally just settled on the RIDGID 14-inch, which was far and away the least expensive. I've never ha a problem with it, once I had it properly setup and learned the tricks of tuning it. The Delta, Grizzly 555X, the Jet and several others are all nearly identical. Bandsaw performance leans heavily on three things: engine HP, blade quality, and the care the operator has gone to ensuring it is tuned and aligned properly. Where the motor is rated the same, the blade is what makes the difference in cutting speed. Wheel balance and quality comes into play with cut quality, since better wheels, properly aligned eliminate vibration.
Ideally, paying more should mean better quality and more useful details, like a fence system included, wheels carefully aligned, etc. In the FWW article you can see that price doesn't predict cutting speed, nor does it predict much else. The two saws with perfectly aligned wheels for example are the cheapest (G0555x) and one that costs twice as much. The rest vary from 4/100s to over 1/5 inch in misalignment.
So, look for the features and size you want. If possible check the actual machine out. That is absolutely the only way to be certain of the machine's quality. If your shop is up or down a set of stairs, can you get it in? How much ceiling clearance to you have? If you plan on building your own add-on table, or you have ideas about the ideal resawing fence, etc. go for fewer features and lower cost. If you decide on a cast-iron frame look at the Grizzly 555X with a riser block. That was my second choice when I bought mine. However, its hard to beat $250 for a new saw when you know you can make or buy anything you want in the way of customization. The money you don't spend on the saw itself can go to better blades and equipment you decide will be useful.
J
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Thanks for all the advice & viewpoints. I have a 14" Jet w/riser blocks. Not enough power to resaw, I really want to get a BS that I will live with without changing again. When I got the Jet some people told me to stay away from it, but price played a part of that decision. So I must say I'm leaning towards the Laguna, but I'll weigh it up.
Thx, Chris

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I resaw 10 inch cherry and oak with my 14" Jet w/riser.
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Maxwell Lol wrote:

Same here, along with mapie and birch, with an American Delta X5.
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:57:18 +0000, B A R R Y wrote:

And I've successfully resawn 12" diameter green walnut logs with my Rikon 14" deluxe model.
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No matter how good the saw the technique is just as important. It is frustrating to deal with a band saw that can't easily be tuned up and tuning up a good bandsaw is not exactly fun. Resawing typically needs a little more power and wider blade, but it still can resaw with some patience. I compared the 14" Jet and Delta side-by-side and the performance was close. I don't like the dust collection of my Delta bandsaw but have made a few improvements. What really matters in the end is accuracy of cut and the Delta wins there. Luguna is most likely better than any Delta, but only if you have lots of extra $$$.
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And my 14" Jet with 1 hp does a fine job of resawing. It has no blade drift since I put the Iturra tension spring and went to the BC saw blades. I resaw with a 1/2" blade, but I have a 3/4" that I seldom put on because the 1/2" blade does just fine.
I have some 144" blades made by one of the popular manufacturers that are rusting away.
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Chris:
I got a Laguna 16HD about 6 weeks ago. As a "non-bandsawer" prior to this purchase I had a bit to learn, but the saw itself was a no-brainer. It's easy to set up, runs in an almost eery silence, and with the Laguna blades (probably not the best, but good enough so far) cuts everything I've put through it (up to resawing 14" hard maple) without problem. I guess, in this case, you may in fact get what you pay for.
Just my experience.
Regards.
Tom
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