Will the chancellor cane house owners in the budget?

[Andy Hall]

Exactly. Extreme anything fails because it is forcing situations artificially.

.andy

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[Andy Hall]

So the focus should be on making the pie larger, not scrapping over who gets the big bit.

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[IMM]

If it can't be made larger the greedy bastard has to be curtailed.

[Huge]

Can I suggest that you go an live in a socialist paradise somewhere? Cuba or North Korea, perhaps?

Oh, I forgot, they can't feed their citizens or provide 24/7 electricity.

[Huge]

It [profit] is the first objective of any business.

[Huge]

No, sorry. Still meaningless cant. No-one forces anyone top use banks. People who do business with them, and therefore contribute to their profits do so entirely vountarily. Unlike the State which confiscates ones property at the point of a gun and then spends it on things you don't want.

If you don't like the RBS, don't do business with them. Simple.

Since you're talking nonsense, no.

Seems to me you're describing the Chancellor of the Exchequer. I don't recall my bank ever threatening me with prison if I didn't do business with them.

Sigh. What's left after costs is profit. Wages and salaries are costs. Ergo, whatever you pay to staff comes out of profits.

I don't have any debt.

Over yours, sure, if you think that wage costs mysteriously come from out of the aether.

And you can *always* choose to pass by on the other side. You don't

*have* to take that loan. You don't *have* to remortgage. You can have a cheaper car. Fewer holidays.

Have you ever tried not paying your National Insurance? Compare and contrast with not buying pineapples in Sainsbury because they're expensive.

Experience teaches us otherwise. Money is always best spent when it is your money being spent on something you want and will use. It is always worst spent when it is someone elses money being spent on something you personally don't give a damn about.

And so we see the rather unpleasant display of your motivation; envy.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

[Sausage King]

Cuba has some of the highest crime rates ever recorded. It has been a failure there too.

But I'm not proposing the extreme right only some more private intervention.

Next you'll be suggesting that it should be from each according to his ability to each according to his need?

[Capitol]

[Capitol]

[Capitol]

Success! Defeatism and envy in one sentence!

Capitol

[Capitol]

I believe it is. The shares may be still quoted in Sterling, but ownership is offshore.

Happy to be wrong if you can make the case. Regards Capitol

[IMM]

Havana is a very safe city. Any crime is due to the needless economic sanctions by the USA.

[Andrew]

In article , Mike Mitchell writes

No, he said they wanted to cut out all the unnecessary (final pensioned) bums behind desks - jag+=2 has employed 4,000 alone in the 'opdm' since

1997.

Because Noo Labour have swamped the NHS with 'managers' and bureaucracy.

I thought that is what Mr Letwin said they would do (spend more). How many of you have heard of Mr Grainger ?. He is the overpaid prat that Phoney has employed (£250K per year) to spend about 5 *billion* of our taxes on a totally unnecessary national computerisation scheme for the NHS. Sod the Victorian buildings - lets get some bits and bytes in there. The whole charade has been surrounded by almost military secrecy

- virtually no independent reviews or critical analysis. Mr Grainger has been reported as saying that all existing HNHS computer systems are 'crap' (some are, many aren't - like the London Hospitals excellent system running on venerable ?Old VAX's and systel) yet he hasn't bothered to even do a proper audit of what is being done.

[Andrew]

In article , Mike Mitchell writes

What - Phoney guilty of theft, surely not.

PS Many nurses have been poached from Africa - and quite a few of them are HIV positive, so they cannot be allowed near patients ! - and the human rights act means they cannot be sent home. Now they are a burden on our NHS, not the country where they came from. Brilliant.

[Andy Hall]

The conflict shouldn't arise in the first place because that is a complete waste of everybody's time and effort, when that effort could be more productively directed.

.andy

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[Andrew]

In article , Sausage King writes

The aren't leaving because of the money though !. PS Like the population as a whole, the nursing profession is well into its 50's and when they start retiring and collecting their fully inflation proof pensions (which few private employers can afford) over the next 5 years, who is going to replace them ?. The nursing profession shot itself in the foot by going for graduate entry only. Now thousands of very willing people find they can only work as nursing auxiliaries with no chance of promotion.

[Andrew]

In article , IMM writes

Not true, Chile has an excellent private pension systems that *everyone* has to participate in. 'Experts' from around the world have been there to take a look at how it should be done. Their troublesome lefties were sorted out as well :-)

[Andrew]

In article , Sausage King writes

And they all drive ladas - a real crime, and a sure sign of a failed economy.

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[Andrew]

In article , IMM writes

Replacing the three that were there before - pay attention at the back.

[Andrew]

In article , Tony Bryer writes

Actually the biggest increase in spending on the NHS in *real* terms was during John Majors 5 years. Oh, and the first thing Phoney did was scrap Ken Clarks initiatives - now 6 years later they have suddenly 'discovered' the same ideas and are calling them theirs.