Radio4 "Home Planet" does Combi pros and cons

[Doctor Drivel]

And some can take 5 minutes too. Did they mention them?

[David Hansen]

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:52:18 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote this:-

Not a good idea. Steam and the ringing voltage are not a good combination.

Hopefully just the speakers.

[David Hansen]

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:35:06 +0100 someone who may be "Doctor Drivel" wrote this:-

In an earlier message you stated that *some* combination boilers can fill a bath in as little as five minutes. No doubt a fairly small plastic bath with curving in sides.

Even at a low head a gravity fed storage system will fill a traditional cast iron bath in 3-4 minutes.

[Jason]

A few drops of baby oil in the bath fixes that problem.

[Jason]

Our 30kW combi fills the bath in about ten minutes. Ten minutes is no problem.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

It's a cordless with the base station in a 'safe' area.

The electronics are in the same cupboard as the hot water storage cylinder, and the controls low voltage. (VCA operated)

[Mary Fisher]

I can't bear oil iin the bath!

No idea who mentioned prunes but no, I don't get like that.

Off to have one now ready for a few days in Chippenham. And the Red Bull Air Races.

Mary

[Mary Fisher]

Yes but that too has disadvantages when you forget (it comes to everyone) and go back to find it too full, sometimes with too hot water which has to be wasted :-(

Mary

[John White]

I think you'll find that when Radio 4 said "Home Planet" they meant Earth, rather than yours Drivel.

John

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Please give the cost of supplying and ensuring a combi can produce 150 litres of hot water at 30C in five minutes?

[Doctor Drivel]

Will you please eff off as you are an idiot.

[Doctor Drivel]

Oh the Mr White again. A man who appears from nowhere to answer my posts - how is it in the uk.d-i-y Lunatic Association?

[Doctor Drivel]

Nope. A stadard sized modern bath.

Only if 28mm is from the tank top cylinder and 28mm to the bathtap, and the tank is above the cylinder and the cylinder on the other side of the wall to the bath. Otherwise, no.

I have just spend a few days with a relative who has a Baxi 105E Combi (instant with the small water vessel inside). The bath is smallish because it was the only size that could fit in, but big enough for the averaged sized person. It filled the bath quickly enough. I never timed it, but there was no agonising wait to get in and appeared the same as tank/cylinder setups. The pressure is around 4 bar and the shower via a Grohe mixer was superb. The water vessel meant water quickly at the taps and no lag. I am impressed by this little beast. One of the few successes of Baxi/Potterton.

[Phil Addison]

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[Phil Addison]

90 ? yes that is tripe....

and as they said, "Many won't".

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[Doctor Drivel]

It is clear the emphasis is on the negative not the positive aspects.

[Ed Sirett]

The conclusion was that no one type of system will always use the least energy for every type of user.

The EST themselves are undertaking a study to identify where savings _might_ be made.

[David Hansen]

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:45:44 +0100 someone who may be "Doctor Drivel" wrote this:-

I note that you were unwilling or unable to answer the simple question, "Please give the cost of supplying and ensuring a combi can produce 150 litres of hot water at 30C in five minutes?"

[David Hansen]

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:57:51 +0100 someone who may be "Doctor Drivel" wrote this:-

Utterly incorrect.

Feel free, if you wish to make even more of a fool of yourself, to inspect an installation with 22mm to and from the cylinder.

[Doctor Drivel]

I see you are joining the ranks of the uk.d-i-y Lunatic Association. How much are the dues?