OT: tick boxes

The answer is that by and large they don't have any. The normal MO seems to be find a keen member of staff "who is good with computers", give then a copy of Quark or InDesign, and tell em to go design forms.

They may get a little training on the form design part of the job, but are unlikely to get any and the more subtle aspects of using the software to its full advantage, making it accessible, or even basic stuff like layout, tables, interactive content etc.

Rather like when the IR used to do downloadable PDFs for tax returns - all very pretty in "corporate" design, layout, colours etc. Then they produced a 75 page book on how to fill it out and how to do the calculations needed for all the computed boxes. For an organisation of that scale, how difficult would it have been to make the forms in the document editable, and had the form do all the calculations for you so you could fill it in on the computer, print it and post it? The cost saving in error reduction from not being able to read the handwriting alone would have paid for the extra few days of development in no time!

Reply to
John Rumm
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I agree, but you're assuming that they listen.

Reply to
GB

I have no sympathy whatsoever for these people. They are paid to provide a service to the taxpayer, and if they do not provide that service, they should be dismissed. I do not care why the service is not being provided; as an end user, the internal structure of a service provider should not be relevant to me.

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Huge

The online SA is not that much better now.

Big box to describe nature of business, fill in about 2 lines of the ten or so the box provides, then get pop-up saying 42chars max.

Put 0 in a box? Can't do that must be left blank.

Reply to
djc

But dismiss whom? The particular woman who phoned up may have been a temp hired to put the data on the computer.

Dismiss the person (or the committee!) who designed the useless forms!

Reply to
GB

She'd be a good start.

Reply to
Huge

Agreed - very definitely the case for quite a number of people.

Reply to
polygonum

The DLA form is page after page after page. I think about 40 pages. It took us three long sessions to fill it in.

Bill

Reply to
Bill Wright

Yes, satisfactory means not satisfactory.

Bill

Reply to
Bill Wright

Or, if you're a company director with your own home, but happen to have a disabled daughter, you can pester the local council until they fit-out with adaptations and rent you a council house, and then, while you're renting out your house and have moved into the adapted council house, you can pester then for another two years until they install a helter skelter in the front garden to get the wheelchair in and out.

jgh

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jgh

I fell through that hole.

How far can you walk normally? Well, miles 'n' miles 'n' miles on the flat, if I'm not carrying anything, and *crucially* if I keep moving. Walking up the hill carrying shopping, or ten minutes standing at the sink doing the dishes puts me in crippling pain. I stopped going to Remembrance Day Services about 15 years ago because I was on the point of passing out.

Sorry, no box for that, bugger off.

jgh

Reply to
jgh

They have actually changed the wording now to "needs improvement" IIUC.

Reply to
John Rumm

Last one out, shut the door!

Reply to
GB

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