[OT]Spam from Bargain Bobs

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Alan

Alan, you are twisting things. You know what I meant. Anyone over 65 should by law have a right to heating fuel supply without the fear of being cut off. If there is any problem about paying for it then, as I said, another way needs to be found of dealing with this. Cutting people off and leaving them to die in the cold is NOT how a modern civilised society should be treating its senior citizens. Think of the outcry if animals were left to die through lack of warmth!!!!
You seem a very uncaring and callous person yourself - do you work for British Gas? I bet your home is nice and warm.
Peter
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Yup, completely agree (awaits sound of Dave fainting). And this case was even simpler. A person had visited the couple and spoken to one of them. It is not then a breach of the DPA to phone social services and say "I am extremely concerned about the well being of these people".
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gabble over several screens. Many organisations have taken to hiding behind the DPA to excuse their own can't-be-arsedness; a few - and *some* of the oterhwise excellent Boys In Blue fall into this category - have it in for the DPA, and miss no opportunity to badmouth it. "Crime prevention" is a totally legit reason for data retention; the requirement that information be accurate does indeed get in the way of recording *unsourced* gossip, as notoriously used to happen on the PNC (Police National Computer) in the 80s (when the first DPA came into force). Doesn't at all stop you recording allegations, provided they're labelled as such and sourced. I.e. "I hear Stefek screws ducks" is problematic; "Steve F, IMM, and the Screwfix marketing mangler have each on several public occasions alleged they've seen Stefek interfering with ducks in 2002 and 2003" is not. It's notable that of our twenty-something police forces, the Humberside one (whose Chief Constable so memorably walked off the Newsnight set when mildly Paxmanned) is the *only* one which has interpreted the DPA and the follow-up guidance from ACPO (Association of Chief Police Officers) so paranoically...
Stefek, drifting relatively concisely
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So what happened to neighbours and family.
I feel the DPA and B G are getting an unwarranted level of abuse over this. The problem is with society as a whole and Maggies privatization of all the monopoly utilities. How many of you have pension schemes, write to them and complain about BGs actions if you feel like it. They are very likely to have some BG shares. So for most people if BG fail to collect payments then its your pension taht suffers.
On an aside I thought that the utilies had to get a court order to disconnect supplies.If so why did the court not follow through?
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:56:52 +0000, snipped-for-privacy@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

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Came to screwfix@ and registrant is down as "screwfix direct" note lower case, however this is not the same name as screwfix.co.uk is registered to which is "Screwfix Direct Ltd", and they are registered through different agents. Very odd.
Also the two sites have the same product codes but different prices (more expensive at bargainbobs), plus the bargainbobs website is very badly designed and not user friendly.
There is something fishy going on here, maybe screwfix are going to try and go 'trade only' while bargainbobs will be for us regular guys? What ever the reason it's a big pile of crap and I'm not impressed.
Tom
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I have spam software and it wouldn't let me bounce the email because the headers are forged................that is not the kind of game you would expect a so called reputable company to play.
I have sent them a snotty email and reported them for spam.
Angela
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Just had a look at bargain bobs web site and under the about us section the address is Scudamore Road, Leicester. i live in Leicester and there is a screwfix distribution warehouse on Scudamore Road, make of that what you will???
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Just phoned them up and the person I spoke to (as well as his superiors) denied all knowledge of bargainbobs. A member of their technical team is going to call me back, I wait with baited breath...
As a side note, as well as the products being more expensive, delivery is 3-5 days at a cost of 5???
Tom
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Thomas Singer wrote:

Just checked on the royal mail website and for that bargainbobs post code this came up- Screwfix North Gate Entrance Scudamore Road LEICESTER LE3 1DX
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They are even stupid enough to state ....
"USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION . We will not collect any personal information about individuals, except where it is specifically and knowingly provided, for example, at the time of registration or the placing of an order. This data is referred to in this Privacy Policy as 'personal information'."
on the website!
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They do appear on the data protection registrars` search engine - just enter the post code:
http://forms.informationcommissioner.gov.uk/search.html
LE3 1DX
So they do appear to be playing "ball" legally, but it might be worth a complaint over misappropriation of data.
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:51:01 -0000, "David Hearn"

I have an account with the Registrar of Companies, and looked up their details from their Annual Return.
Until the 23rd October this year, Bargain Bob's Ltd. was a dormant company known as Aromatic Duck Ltd. (I kid you not).
The registered office is
Mead Avenue Houndstone Business Park Yeovil Somerset BA22 8RT
(Screwfix's address).
The register is held at
Northwest House 119 Marylebone Rd London NW1 5PX
(which is unsurprisingly the head office of Kingfisher PLC).
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I was beginning to wonder whether this might all be a discreditation exercise by someone deliberately setting up spoof screwfix stuff, and with improper access to the ScrewFix mailing list, but this appears to be a smoking gun.
Glad they don't have my email address now!
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RichardS wrote:

I does beg the question, why would they (SF) bother? Is it a test to see if they can get rid of SF's call centre and go web only?
It looks like a shoddy effort, even the t&c page is badly written. It almost looks like the directors are high ranking Nigerian officials looking to launder some ill gotten gains from a Canadian lottery scam.
There are many firms that use multiple brands as part of comparative marketing exercises, but this doesn't really work with direct mail order.
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Given this, I don't quite understand what they are trying to achieve.
One could imagine that it's a vehicle for offloading end of line or overstocked product from Screwfix, this is implied in their "about us" statement, but then the prices are higher.
I suppose the other possibility is that they felt that they are not reaching a sector of the market, because Screwfix markets itself as for the "trade" - whatever that is.
It could simply be to reduce the rate of producing new catalogues from Screwfix - that's an expensive hobby.
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I reckon its time to bring "fluffy bunny" out of retirement,
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,54040,00.html
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I use dedicated email addresses and it was the screwfix one.
I have bounced the email to screwfix to look at. It may be them or there third party emailer.
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:51:01 -0000, "David Hearn"

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David Hearn wrote:

Just got another email from Screwfix (I'd not contacted them about this) saying:
We have been made aware this morning (December 23rd) that a number of Screwfix Direct customers have received an email from "Bargain Bob's". This was due to a processing error and we are very sorry that this has happened. Bargain Bob's is related to Screwfix Direct and was set up as a "clearance" web site to sell overstocked and deleted Screwfix Direct products. Again, we apologise for the intrusion of this unexpected and unsolicited e-mail message, which was not intended for you or any other existing Screwfix Direct customers. John Allan Managing Director Screwfix Direct Ltd.
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of which are annoying as I unsubscribed from screfix mail list some two weeks ago! I seem to remember a thread about then on this newsgroup where there was an argument that screwfix were spammers. At the time the majority defended them. And now this.... To my mind they are showing their true colours. Very much pro marketing and mass e-mailing.
I also note that the 'apology' from screwfix seemed to go out of its way to plug bargin bobs as a clerance site. Strange clerance site where the prices are higher. Maybe some marketing genius has suggested putting up a cheap looking site will give the impression that the goods are also cheap!
Richard
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