[OT]Spam from Bargain Bobs

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I've never heard of Bargain Bob's Hardware Clearance Store, but I just received some spam to my personal email address and my work email address from them. Its highly unusual for me to receive spam to both accounts at the same time - the only time I've got emails like that are from Screwfix (which since I signed up for those emails, I don't class as spam).
Now, I'm wondering where Bargain Bob got his email list from, and I'm really hoping that it isn't Screwfix.
So - has anyone, who uses special email addresses (eg. snipped-for-privacy@domain.com), received spam from Bargain Bob? If so, can you confirm if it came via Screwfix or someone else?
Thanks
David
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I just got one too, and I use screwfix but I have no idea where this one came from though
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Yes
I can confirm that it is the screwfix mailing list that is being used.
I can't see any reference to screwfix in the headers!
Martin
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:07:31 +0000, Martin Carroll

I thought that unsolicited Spam was now ILLEGAL in the EU?
As I signed up for Screwfix emails and NOT Bargainbob emails this is probably agaist the law.
I hope Screwfix are aware of this..?
sPoNiX (Not amused)
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really
Have also just had the spam ... and am not a happy bunny.
Its definitely screwfix
http://www.samspade.org/t/lookat?a=www.bargainbobs.co.uk
Im about to send a very snotty email to "Barginbob" and also to screwfix. !!
Lard
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Lardman wrote:

Question is though, is Bargain Bob actually a Screwfix company? If so, then it (possibly) can legitimately use its customer details. Kinda like the Dixons group.
Ethical and legal are very different things though.
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You bet- my swimming club can't get a lifeguard because the Data Protection Act won't let us find qualified types, two old people die because the British Gas "is not allowed" to contact help, and every villain and crook in creation is selling on all our details.
The lawyers must be very proud of themselves
mike r
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Sounds like a very convenient law for some to hide behind - including the police. I find it hard to believe they weren't exempt from it otherwise what's the point in a national criminal database?
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Dave Plowman snipped-for-privacy@argonet.co.uk London SW 12
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I think the issue was that the Soham murderer (I forget his name) hadn't actually been convicted of anything previously and thus keeping data on him is decidedly difficult having regard to the DPA.
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:21:00 UTC, snipped-for-privacy@ISBD.CO.UK wrote:

According to the police, yes; but not according to the Information Commissioner.
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I just got this reply from Screwfix
Dear xxxx
We have been made aware this morning (December 23rd) that a number of Screwfix Direct customers have received an email from "Bargain Bob's". This was due to a processing error and we are very sorry that this has happened.
Bargain Bob's is related to Screwfix Direct and was set up as a "clearance" web site to sell overstocked and deleted Screwfix Direct products. Again, we apologise for the intrusion of this unexpected and unsolicited e-mail message, which was not intended for you or any other existing Screwfix Direct customers.
John Allan Managing Director Screwfix Direct Ltd. http://www.screwfix.com
At Screwfix Direct, we deliver everything for the trade - next day!
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If you wish to unsubscribe to this service from Screwfix Direct or if you are receiving more than one copy of this email, please click here to unsubscribe.
Mailing Code: E52W15
Contact Details: Screwfix Direct Ltd, Mead Avenue, Houndstone Business Park, Yeovil, BA22 8RT.
FREEPHONE 0500 41 41 41
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Hi,
They are also using covert spam tracking techniques in the email too, look in the HTML for something like:
<IMG SRC='http://pm.fwdto.com/t.html?a=tbc&j.E&url 99&u=*ID*' WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=1>
Where *ID* is a unique number that identifies that you have read the email.
cheers, Pete.
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Hardly covert. Its a common feature with email marketing used to work out the click-through rate etc.
Notice they are using a using an out-sourced email processing outfit and the unique ID is to the fwdto.com site. Based on this, its possible they get paid based on the click-through rate or something similar and that all URLs get automatically get this added to it. If that's the case, then Screwfix's website may never get passed the ID, nor know the mapping between email address and ID.
D
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See also:
http://www.screwfix.com/talk/thread.jspa?threadID 45&tstart=0
third post down.
cheers, Pete.
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Don't beleive tabloid bullshit. The DPA did not work against the police at Soham, the DPA did not absolve British Gas from its duty of care to the elderly people it cut off and killed. Billains and crooks aren't obeying the law, the police are failing to prosecute them.
The DPA is a necessary act, the police don't agree with it and fail to enforce it and use it as a lame excuse in an attempt to discredit it.
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The old people told BG to sod off during the summer - they did not die in poverty. I'm sure that most people reading this newsgroup would be complaining if BG informed social services when they decided to change gas suppliers.
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:14:25 UTC, Alan

Not as simple as that. They only saw the wife, who was really not fit enought to talk to them properly. Husband was out for a few minutes.
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That's my reading of it as well. Do the bigwigs who spout from BG etc *really* think they'd be prosecuted if they told social services someone needed help? Nor do they have to disclose the reason why (non payment of bills etc) they pass on this information. It's only a convenient smokescreen to hide their incompetence. *Their* incompetence - not necessarily that of their staff.
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Very true - and the fact that they were not penniless (even if BG knew that) does not mean they didn't need some help of some kind.
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You and I are not paying our utility changes in order that the front line staff at BG, and similar companies, become a second tier of social services. In this case the data protection law worked in exactly the way it was drafted and enforced in the past by the regulators - this law has always been ambiguous for the sole purpose of making 'jobs for the boys'.
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