Probably two words that don't normally coexist in the same sentence, but can anyone recommend an inexpensive safe that will be accepted by an insurance company and that will store jewellery and documents?
TIA
what sort of level of insurance? what sort of budget? Without specifying those the range is huge.
NT
And probably equally as important as the abilty of the safe to resist attack what has the OP got that the safe can be attched to? The most secure safe out there isn't much use if they can drive a JCB through a wall, pick it up in the bucket to be taken away and "worked on" at their leisure.
Start by asking your insurance company.
It will need fitting so it is not easily removable. Either fixed to something very strong or better still sunk into a solid floor.
Don't know if local banks still offer safety deposit boxes for items to which access is rarely needed.
I have seen a number of claims for stolen ATMs. Damage invariably ran to
5 figures excluding ATM and contents.
There was a recent story, in Germany IIRC, of robbers who tried to blow an ATM out of the bank wall. About the only thing left standing after th explosion was the ATM machine.
Colin Bignell
You should visit a good locksmith who can discuss your need in detail and advise you as to the best safe. As a guide, for about £80, you can get a simple wall safe that is rated to £1,000 cash / £10,000 valuables for insurance purposes.
Colin Bignell
Oops, you're right, my specs were non-existent!
Level of insurance: probably around £10000.
Budget: no more than I need to spend! Less than £100 if possible.
Location: I had imagined bolting it to the solid concrete floor in the cupboard under the stairs. I've absolutely zero experience of this so would appreciate some guidance.
Reason(s) for installing one: security, obviously, but Management has a habit of putting valuable things in a 'safe' (pardon the pun) place and then forgetting, so I thought I could solve two problems at the same time.
You'll need a large person sized safe to lock up 'Management' ;-)
Do you need fire protection as well?
Theo
A thought. Look up gun cabinets as well.
some car sizes suitable..
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Invisible Man saying something like:
The nearest ATM to me was jimmied out of the bank wall with a digger one night. After all the repairs were done, the ATM was hemmed in by solid concrete blocks. One night, a year later, the ATM was jimmied out of the wall by a digger, the blocks simply pushed aside.
Doh!
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Nightjar saying something like:
Or a cheapy wall safe with a dummy double 13A socket on the front. I discovered one by the simple expedient of trying to plug an extension into it. :) You'd think the makers would have left a bit of space behind the dummy front so that the plug went right in.
Even better if it ran whatever was plugged into it.. However, I don't think they are insurance company approved.
Colin Bignell
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Nightjar saying something like:
I suggested to the householder that I could fix it for him - the fleeting look of panic on his face was interesting.
Might as well while I'm sorting it?
How are these fixed into the wall? I assume they're only around one brick from back to front?
They are designed to be concreted into the inner leaf of a cavity wall, so are rather deeper. They also have bars that are extended from inside the safe, to spread the load across a larger area of wall if anyone tries to lever them out. However, £1,000 cash / £10,000 valuables is the starting point for insurance values, so don't expect too much of them.
Colin Bignell
I'm still trying to research a decent safe for valuables and (not many) documents and have come across these two. Anyone with any experience of such matters got any views on them?
TIA
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