I need to change the aerial on my roof, and I was hoping for some useful
advice before I go up there. The problem is, that the roof is a little
unusual - rather than the normal inverted 'v' there are also side angles too
which are quite sheer. See picture
house is also the middle of a terrace, so there's no access from the sides.
So any kind soul feel like giving me some advice? - even if it's 'get a
professional'. (in which case how much do you think that might cost?)
Know anyone with a helicopter? <g>
Seriously, you'll need two ladders. The first one - probably of the
extending variety needs to lean against what you call the side angles of the
roof, and to reach a little way above the level where the slope changes. The
second one - of the roof variety, with wheels and apex hooks one end - needs
to lie on the final bit of the roof. [You will have to carry this up the
first ladder, slide it up the roof on its wheels, and turn it over when it
gets to the top].
The two ladders then need lashing firmly together - whereupon you can
confidently climb from the first to the second and hence to the top. [I
assume that the aerial mast is fixed to the chimney?].
Can't help with your problem, David, but do be careful if you get up on the
I have a vivid memory as a child of about 4, watching our first aerial
installed in about 1951. The installer was on his own and used a single
long ladder with no safety equipment, and managed to kick the top of the
ladder once he was on the roof. The ladder fell over, of course.
Our garden was on the side of a hill and we had to climb a number of steps
to reach it, so we kids were able to watch on a level with the roof. I
remember staring with fascination, wondering what this man was doing,
shouting and hanging onto our roof for dear life. We hadn't even realised
what was going on, since the TV was meant to be a surprise for us, and we'd
just been sent up into the garden to keep us safely out of the way while he
Thankfully, eventually we realised there was a problem and ran to get Mum
who managed to reposition the ladder.
Thanks. Unlike another memory which would probably amuse others just as
much - but didn't me at the time :-)
When I was much younger I lived alone in a first floor flat. The flat of
the elderly woman below was slightly larger than mine so that there was a
small bit of sloping roof, over her bedroom, outside one of my windows. Her
bedroom ceiling developed a very irritating leak and it was fairly obvious
that a small area between the roof and a ridge might be the cause. It
looked as if a good helping of mastic might solve the problem, at least
Neither of us had money to throw away, the landlord took about 5 years to
deal with any such problem, and I'm disinclined to ask friends to do a job
if I can manage it well enough myself, so I decided to try DIY. Lacking a
long enough ladder, the obvious route was to climb out of the window and
cross about 3 feet of roof. There was a sturdy concrete ridge I could sit
on to do the work. I wasn't stupid: I roped myself very securely to the
window so that I couldn't have fallen far, and asked the old lady to be
there while I did the job so there was someone to dial 999 if anything went
Everything went brilliantly until the time came to get myself back inside.
Then I panicked, I couldn't work out for the life of me how to stand up
from my safe little perch get back inside, and the three feet to the window
seemed a mile. It must have taken about 10 minutes for me to talk myself
back to rational thought - it seemed like hours. But phoning for help would
have seemed like a greater embarrassment even than falling - I could just
imagine all those macho firemen having a giggle behind my back at this silly
Once I got my head together, of course, the trip back to safety was very
easy and entirely uneventful. But I've never tried it again, and that
memory is one I'd rather forget!
"David Aldridge" wrote
| "John Flax" wrote
| > Have you considered putting an aerial in the loft?
| I could - but its a squeeze getting up there!
| I need to get a good strong reception - what would the difference
| in reception be?
Could be as little as 10% of an external rooftop aerial.
That depends entirely on how high up it is, what teh roof is made of and
where you are in locatin to teh transmitter.
In my case recpetion is perfect ith a GOOD loft mounted aerial, pointed
at my local transmitter, which is almost direct line of sight about 12
I am going sideways through conventional tiles at that point. chicken
wire coated thatch part of roof proved less optimal :-)
have you considered a satellite dish instead?
If you dont want to subscribe to Murdoch's empire, you can still get a dish
and digibox without subscription and
You can get BBC, ITV and CH4 without subscription.
The cost of dish,digibox + professional installation is similar to that of a
Of course, if you are tempted to subscribe to more channels, then the cost
of the dish, digibox and installation is next to nothing! (minimum contract
If you dont like the Murdoch empire
it's possible because you cannot get the FTV card any more.
There is also some talk of Sky changing the encryption so that even
existing FTV cards will not work.
This does not apply to BBC channels as they have gone unencrypted, which
is what caused the whole situation.
If you have a FTV card (ie. not a Sky subscription), then I'm pretty sure
you'll find that you'll lose all non BBC channels shortly.
As of July 11th, BBC moved from FTV (encrypted and need a 'free' card) to
FTA (no encryption, no card needed). BBC was the major source of cash for
the card issuance, and now that BBC have pulled out of that (no need for
cards, so why should the BBC fund it), the FTV market has collapsed (ie. you
can no longer get any more FTV cards). This means that you can't get a new
There's also some dispute about the future. Some people (even with the 2nd
issue Sky cards who have closed their subscription and are now just FTV
cards) have found that ITV, C4 and C5 are now no longer viewable without a
full Sky subscription. AFAIK, these channels are now pulling out of the FTV
market (without a card issuer - there is no future in FTV) and will shortly
(if not already) require a full Sky subscription to get ITV, C4 and C5.
Any dispute about this? Don't ask me - go to uk.tech.digital-tv where this
has been discussed to death for months.
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