Britain unprepared for severe blackouts

[S Viemeister]

True. Kindles lack absorbency.

[Tim Watts]

*splrrt!*

[Vir Campestris]

On 08/01/2015 22:18, Nightjar I suspect you will find it was a semi-automatic; you needed to pull the

But I suspect it would not be hard to change that...

Andy

[Huge]

Trivial. The hard bit with semi-autos is getting them to stop, rather than having them empty the entire magazine.

[Tim Lamb]

I would think a 12 bore on full auto would put lead in the sky after the first round.

[spuorgelgoog]

Meanwhile in Scotland (not actually this bit, but some parts not far from here) SSE (the former Hydro) are providing free food from fish-and-chip vans etc as emergency catering stations in places cut off by bad weather.

83,000 customers back on. 29,000 customers still off.

Owain

[Huge]

There's a full auto mod for a Remington semi (I forget which model) and I have a still of it being fired here somewhere - lots of muzzle flash and 2 or 3 ejected cartridges in the air. I imagine it would give you a hell of a bruise, but I see no reason why it would rise up.

[Tim Streater]

Prolly would in my case. I only ever fired a shotgun on one occasion - a clay pigeon shoot in North Carolina. I got 1.5 out of 20 - couldn't see where the pellets were going. Do they do tracer?

[Tim Lamb]

I have only used a side by side 12 bore but found the gun needed re-training for an aimed second shot. You hear a lot of *double taps* from pigeon shooters but I doubt the second shot is aimed.

[Tim Lamb]

In message , Tim Streater writes

If you stand behind a shooter, you can watch the wadding/plastic cup which travels straight for a short distance.

Your maths is better than mine but a bird might be crossing at 40mph, shot leaves the barrel at say 900 feet/sec. For a reasonable shot spread and to avoid *shredding* the target might be 100ft. distant.

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[Vir Campestris]

Come on, it's not like a Sten. It has some length to it.

I fired a GPMG "from the hip" once - belt fed 7.62mm - and that had no tendency to go in any particular direction. And I didn't have as much weight (or muscle) then.

Andy

[Nightjar]

On 10/01/2015 23:14, Tim Streater wrote: ...

Yes, but IME it is fairly useless.

[The Natural Philosopher]

If you keep your eyes OPEN when you pull the trigger you can see the spread..

[Tim Streater]

Why would I be closing my eyes? And no, I couldn't see the spread.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Well I have seen the spread

[Nightjar]

Not everybody can, but IME tracer shells don't seem to make it any clearer.

[harryagain]

What's wrong with these people? Don't they have a plan for power cuts? Seems to be a regular occurence up there.

Just scroungers being bought off.

[Dave Liquorice]

I don't think many people do have much of a plan for a power cut. They might have a few scented candles but possibly not a box of matches. Backup cooking, unless they go camping, probably not. Alternative space heating, unlikely.

I suspect it may actually be cheaper for the DNO. Can't remember the exact details of the compensation you get if off supply for more than

18(?) hours and for each x number of hours after that up to some limit. I do know we got about £50 per supply when we were off for 36 hours the other winter.

It would not surprise me if receiving a free greasy spoon fish & chip supper or 20 l of red for your genset stops you claiming the compensation payment. It's also good PR for the DNO, we are sorry, we can't control the weather but we are doing our best to feed you and keep you warm.

[Huge]

Actually, with experience you can see them. Besides, I guarantee you weren't giving them enough lead and shooting behind.

[Tim Streater]

Well, I didn't enjoy it a great lot. Was visiting a bloke I used to know in Geneva. The highlight of the trip (FSVO "highlight") was visiting a cigarette factory and seeing how they are made by machine.

Without a doubt.