No, there is an eruv in North London. I can't quite see why it would be slapped down, as it does no harm to anyone. There's a bit of the eruv wire running through the woods locally. I know where it runs, and I've looked for it, but I have never been able to spot it. So, it's not exactly obtrusive.
When we toured that area there were various technology bolt-ons you could see as we drove past the farms, from generators to solar panels etc. The methodology often seemed to be to not draw power from the grid, but generating your own was OK.
I also love the "pimped" carriage shown on one of the recent documentaries. They interviewed the teenage owner, who, surrounded by pink neon lights etc., said, "Well it still only goes 4 miles per hour !"
Simon.
The Amish are not a single cohesive group. There are, possibly, eight different sub-groups, all with different sets of religious practices and rules and even those may differ from congregation to congregation within the same Order.
The Swartzentruber Amish do not allow indoor plumbing or the use of battery powered lights. The largest group, the Old Order Amish, are permitted to ride in motorised vehicles, but not to own them. Some New Order Amish are allowed to own modern farm equipment and to have telephones in the home.
Colin Bignell
would go to comply with this. Even down to a special light switch which was designed to comply with this.Some wont even take the bones out of fish or filter water on the sabbath
There are also cookers with Sabbath settings. Years ago, local gentiles would light the stove, now technology takes care of it...
Could be to give those who live close some rest from the noise?
I was referring to the ultimate 'tiny' one. But checking shows it was just a suggestion...a good idea though!
that's so 1990's... which is what i had in my first camper, pain in the arse after you'd changed a gas bottle and had to get the air out of the line... holding the 3 position flame knob in whilst thunking the peizo button 100 times a minute, by the time you got it going again your beers had warmed up due to having to have the fridge door open to see the fekin flame through the little port hole.
mind you, the gas fridges of the 60's and 70's either had a flint and wheel to spark, or you shoved a lit match down a tube to light the gas... all from the back of the fridge, which ment you were outside the van, much fun on a stormy night i imagine.
My next camper i got one of the first thetford branded 3 way fridges to come on the market, no port hole in the back of the cabinet, instead there was a flame meter on the control panel (tapped into the thermo couple line and showed the micro volts as the flame heated the bulb) it also had electric ignition, so was just a case of holding the gas thermostat knob in and switching the energy selector to gas, tick tick tick, and the meter needle rose, ticking stopped, and you could let go of the knob.
only problem was, they boasted that the thetford fridges would work in 25 degree ambient heat, ok for england i guess, but a trip through europe ending up in barcelona in summer showed that they really did mean it'd work in 25 degree ambient heat... 25.1 degrees and it starts to struggle, so it was more of an oven than a fridge by the time we got through switzerland,
By barcelona i was looking for a replacement fridge, and bought a 12 volt compressor fridge freezer, bloody brilliant, always kept everything in the freezer frozen, stuff in the fridge at between 4 and 6 degrees, and it worked even if you were parked more than 3 degrees off level, and it cost a third of the price of the equivelent size 3 way fridge freezer.
only downside was it consumed 80 amp hours a day from the batteries, i had a 700AH battery bank, and 400watts of solar panels on the roof, fine in summer, but in winter i had to run the genny every few days or the lights went out on the 3rd night.
None for me either, zero evidence.
There is a sabbath setting on my modern F&P fridge.
WTF does it do?
Not sure how clear this is,jpeg of manual page.
There was, IIRC, debate some time ago as to whether asking a trained animal to turn on a light or switch an appliance on was considered "work" during Shabbat. Some families had allegedly trained monkeys to operate switches on request.
Children playing is not noise.
there were no houses nearby
it is if you live near a primary school at break time.
Weird. One would have thought that opening the dor was "work" and therefore not allowed, so it doesn't matter if the light comes on. But then, I am not Jewish.
Yes it is. Not all of us think that whatever children do is charming and amusing.
Lighting a fire is forbidden, and turning a light on is considered byh some to be equivalent to lighting a fire.
Just read that 'out of interest' and all I can say is _bizarre_
Sorry to offend any believers in sky fairies but ...
This *is* the 21st century you know :-)
Avpx
I think the UK is particularly irreligious by World standards. Probably well under 10% are actively religious, with the vast majority being nominally some sort of religion but actually not participating in any way.
Assuming you were brought up here, you may find it somewhat odd just how many religious people there are around in the 21st century. Go to India, and more or less everybody is religious. The USA - I don't know the percentage, but I would guess that 50% are actively religious. And so on.
Of course, if you were religious, you would see nothing bizarre in trying to interpret God's will (or Gods' wills for polytheists) and acting accordingly. I cannot for the life of me see what is more bizarre about not switching lights on than about taking communion, say, or using horse drawn buggies.
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